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  1. #1
    Enrico Schiratti
    Guest

    Re: Procedures SID/STAR's

    Hi,

    what do you mean by "select a transition after a star"? Can you give me an
    example of the problem you are experiencing? YOu do not seem to have any
    transitions defined.

    All names you use are unique... compare it to our default stardata file for

    EDDN to understand.

    MAG3E RW08
    1> MAG
    MAG3E MAG
    3> MAG KOSUL
    MAG3E RW10
    1> MAG
    MAG3W RW26
    1> MAG
    MAG3W MAG
    3> MAG LUTER
    MAG3W RW28
    1> MAG

    Ciao

    Enrico

    "Jan Pemoeller" wrote in message
    news:388449.69498@wb.onvix.com...
    > Are there any news about this problem?
    >
    > At the moment I program the transitions as the same way as the stars. But
    > that is not correct! Because then it is impossible to selcet a transition
    > "after" a star ...
    >
    > Example Nürnberg (EDDN)
    > [EDDN]
    > AKINI2T ALL
    > 1> AKINI UNKUL DOSIS ALB
    > ANELA1P ALL
    > 1> ANELA ERL
    > DKB4P ALL
    > 1> DKB D051I ALB
    > DKB2T ALL
    > 1> DKB LETKU
    > HAB4P ALL
    > 1> HAB ERL
    > HAB2T ALL
    > 1> HAB ERMUT GISEL
    > VELIS2T ALL
    > 1> VELIS GORKO GISEL
    > NEBIL2T ALL
    > 1> NIBIL PESIP
    > LONL2P ALL
    > 1> LONLI ANELA ERL
    > ROTE2P ALL
    > 1> ROTEN ALB
    > ROTEM2T ALL
    > 1> ROTEN LETKU
    > PESIP28 RW28
    > 1> PESIP @08000 DN413 DN412 DN411 DN422 DN423 DN424 DN425 DN426 DN427
    > DN428
    > DN429 DN436 DN 435 DN434 OSNUB
    > GISEL28 RW28
    > 1> GISEL @08000 DN422 DN423 DN424 DN425 DN426 DN427 DN428 DN429 DN436 DN


    > 435
    > DN434 OSNUB
    > DOSIS28 RW28
    > 1> DOSIS DN454 DN453 DN452 DN451 DN442 DN443 DN444 DN445 DN446 DN447
    > DN448
    > DN449 DN436 DN435 DN434 OSNUB
    > ALB28 RW28
    > 1> ALB DN453 DN452 DN451 DN442 @08000 DN443 DN444 DN445 DN446 DN447

    DN448
    > DN449 DN436 DN435 DN434 OSNUB
    > LETKU28 RW28
    > 1> LETKU DN442 @08000 DN443 DN444 DN445 DN446 DN447 DN448 DN449 DN436
    > DN435
    > DN434 OSNUB
    > PESIP10 RW10
    > 1> PESIP DN426 DN425 @08000 DN424 DN423 DN422 DN421 DN420 DN430 DN431
    > DN432
    > @04200 VENUB
    > DOSIS10 RW10
    > 1> DOSIS DN446 DN445 @08000 DN444 DN443 DN442 DN441 DN440 DN430 DN431
    > DN432
    > @04200 VENUB
    > ALB10 RW10
    > 1> ALB DN453 DN445 @08000 DN444 DN443 DN442 DN441 DN440 DN430 DN431

    DN432
    > @04200 VENUB
    > LETKU10 RW10
    > 1> LETKU DN451 DN452 DN453 DN445 @08000 DN444 DN443 DN442 DN441 DN440
    > DN430
    > DN431 DN432 @04200 VENUB
    >
    >
    >



  2. #2
    Jan Pemoeller
    Guest

    Re: Procedures SID/STAR's

    Hi Enrico,

    I will try it this weekend!
    Maybe I understand now something new:

    with the

    >1
    >2
    >3


    I can follow after a STAR (1>) via the transition (2>) .. or (3>)to the final
    approach fix?
    If this is possible that would be the answer!

    Example:

    ROTEM2T ALL
    1> ROTEN LETKU
    LETKU28 LETKU
    2> LETKU DN442 @08000 DN443 DN444 DN445 .....
    LETKU10 LETKU
    3> LETKU DN451 DN452 DN453 DN445 @08000 DN444 DN443 ....

    The STAR ROTEM2T ends at LETKU for all RWY´s, then you can follow a
    transition by turning into LETKU28 for RWY 28 or LETKU10 for RWY 10!

    Sorry for the trouble and for my english, but I have not found any infos
    about the transition programming in your documentation.

    Best regards
    Jan

    P.S. If we fix this- I will send you an updated file for all major German
    Airports.


  3. #3
    Enrico Schiratti
    Guest

    Re: Procedures SID/STAR's

    Hello Jan,

    thank you for your help... the > numbers are just markers as far as I
    remember, the transitions are simply defined by having the same name as an
    approach, but a waypoint rather than a runway as a target.

    Ciao

    Enrico

    "Jan Pemoeller" wrote in message
    news:389259.69498@wb.onvix.com...
    > Hi Enrico,
    >
    > I will try it this weekend!
    > Maybe I understand now something new:
    >
    > with the
    >
    >>1
    >>2
    >>3

    >
    > I can follow after a STAR (1>) via the transition (2>) .. or (3>)to the
    > final
    > approach fix?
    > If this is possible that would be the answer!
    >
    > Example:
    >
    > ROTEM2T ALL
    > 1> ROTEN LETKU
    > LETKU28 LETKU
    > 2> LETKU DN442 @08000 DN443 DN444 DN445 .....
    > LETKU10 LETKU
    > 3> LETKU DN451 DN452 DN453 DN445 @08000 DN444 DN443 ....
    >
    > The STAR ROTEM2T ends at LETKU for all RWY´s, then you can follow a
    > transition by turning into LETKU28 for RWY 28 or LETKU10 for RWY 10!
    >
    > Sorry for the trouble and for my english, but I have not found any infos
    > about the transition programming in your documentation.
    >
    > Best regards
    > Jan
    >
    > P.S. If we fix this- I will send you an updated file for all major German
    > Airports.
    >



  4. #4
    Enrico Schiratti
    Guest

    Re: Procedures SID/STAR's

    that, btw... was from our notams page... www.projectmagenta.com/notams.html

    We are compiling a checklist for all these things as part of our new
    documentation which should be available soon.

    Ciao

    Enrico

    "Enrico Schiratti" wrote in message
    news:389268.69498@wb.onvix.com...
    > Hello Jan,
    >
    > thank you for your help... the > numbers are just markers as far as I
    > remember, the transitions are simply defined by having the same name as

    an
    > approach, but a waypoint rather than a runway as a target.
    >
    > Ciao
    >
    > Enrico
    >
    > "Jan Pemoeller" wrote in message
    > news:389259.69498@wb.onvix.com...
    >> Hi Enrico,
    >>
    >> I will try it this weekend!
    >> Maybe I understand now something new:
    >>
    >> with the
    >>
    >>>1
    >>>2
    >>>3

    >>
    >> I can follow after a STAR (1>) via the transition (2>) .. or (3>)to the
    >> final
    >> approach fix?
    >> If this is possible that would be the answer!
    >>
    >> Example:
    >>
    >> ROTEM2T ALL
    >> 1> ROTEN LETKU
    >> LETKU28 LETKU
    >> 2> LETKU DN442 @08000 DN443 DN444 DN445 .....
    >> LETKU10 LETKU
    >> 3> LETKU DN451 DN452 DN453 DN445 @08000 DN444 DN443 ....
    >>
    >> The STAR ROTEM2T ends at LETKU for all RWY´s, then you can follow a
    >> transition by turning into LETKU28 for RWY 28 or LETKU10 for RWY 10!
    >>
    >> Sorry for the trouble and for my english, but I have not found any infos
    >> about the transition programming in your documentation.
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >> Jan
    >>
    >> P.S. If we fix this- I will send you an updated file for all major

    German
    >> Airports.
    >>

    >



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