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Thread: Terrain Data Files
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12-07-2004, 09:51 PM #1Stuart HumeGuest
Terrain Data Files
Hello All,
Have people had problems with scenery/textures interfereing with the terrain
showing on the ND? I think it is probably something I added to do with
scenery for Sydney and Melbourne Airports. Weather displays correctly etc. I
have since removed the scenery and .bgl files from FS, but can not restore
the terrain.
Is there any place that explains how the terrain files are selected?
I have been able to use whazzup to generate terrain files, and get them to
display correctly on the ND. However in the last few flights, teh terrain is
not showing as it used to. I get No Terrain on the ND. The only changes
I have made are to;
a) upgrade to the latest builds as at mid November,
b) added scenery and textures.
I have tried regenerating the
Some locations (ie Tucson Arizona, KLAX ) still work ok.
Has anyone had other problems similar to this,
Thanks and Regards
Stuart
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12-07-2004, 09:58 PM #2Katy PlutaGuest
RE: Terrain Data Files
Stuart,
Scenery files in FS will not interfere at all with the terrain in Whazzup
or
the Glass Cockpit display, are you sure that the de files are still in the
pfd\terrain folder?
Best Regards
Katy Pluta
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Subject: Terrain Data Files
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Hello All,
Have people had problems with scenery/textures interfereing with the
terrain
showing on the ND? I think it is probably something I added to do with
scenery for Sydney and Melbourne Airports. Weather displays correctly etc.
I have since removed the scenery and .bgl files from FS, but can not
restore
the terrain.
Is there any place that explains how the terrain files are selected?
I have been able to use whazzup to generate terrain files, and get them to
display correctly on the ND. However in the last few flights, teh terrain
is not showing as it used to. I get No Terrain on the ND. The only
changes
I have made are to;
a) upgrade to the latest builds as at mid November,
b) added scenery and textures.
I have tried regenerating the
Some locations (ie Tucson Arizona, KLAX ) still work ok.
Has anyone had other problems similar to this,
Thanks and Regards
Stuart
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12-07-2004, 10:36 PM #3Stuart HumeGuest
RE: Terrain Data Files
Hi Katy,
Yes I checked, they were there (only the .de1) files, and have tried to
regenerate them from Whazzup again, and put them in again,
Thanks,
Stuart
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12-08-2004, 07:48 AM #4Steven WhiteGuest
RE: Terrain Data Files
I only just purchased Whazzup so you will know more about it than I do
however just in case... It's usually the simple things we overlook.
1. Make sure your radar is at 80 or less.
2. Switch pages on the CDU to activate the appropriate terrain file (yssy.de1
or yssy.de2 if you are at yssy)
3. If you are running multiple PFD installs then copy the files from whazzup
to the version displaying the ND. (nearly fell for that)
Other than those few things tonights install and DEM creation went well.
Good luck.
Regards,
Steven.
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12-08-2004, 11:33 PM #5Stuart HumeGuest
RE: Terrain Data Files
Thanks for the tips, I have tried that, just as a matter of interest, what is
the difference between the de1 and de2 files ?
Will have another go again tonight,
Thanks
Stuart
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12-09-2004, 02:56 AM #6Steven WhiteGuest
RE: Terrain Data Files
I read that the de2 was higher resolution though I can't see it comparing
KLAX to YSSY. Not the same terrain of course but at 5nm resolution the
terrain grid is spaced the same at the two airports. I was going to do a render
of KLAX tonight to do a better compare.
Regards,
Steven
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12-09-2004, 06:30 AM #7Stuart HumeGuest
RE: Terrain Data Files
Thanks for the help on this, but I have tried to regenerate the YSSY / YBBN /
YMML icao areas, but am not having much luck.
Is there anyway to look at logs, or any tips on how to debug this. The
frustrating thing is that it works for some Nth American places,
Thanks and Regards
Stuart
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12-09-2004, 07:26 AM #8Steven WhiteGuest
RE: Terrain Data Files
Do you want to send my one of your problem files and I will try it out? I
guess we could at least make sure it isn't a data issue.
If you like, send it to email@thx1137.net.
BTW: I just discovered the terrain ND setup options in the CDU. It looks
MUCH nicer now that I bumped up the range, type and modified the colour!
Regards,
Steven.
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12-09-2004, 08:58 AM #9Stuart HumeGuest
RE: Terrain Data Files
Hi Steven,
Thanks for the offer, I got it to go tonight - its a weird one. Katy - not
sure if you can replicate this, but there was a 0 length file in the Terrain
folder in the PFD folder.
All terrain info before that zero length file works, all terrain info after
that doesnt. (I can understand how this could be possible as a programmer)
Removed the zero length file, and the terrain for YSSY etc came back - just
as before.
With regard to the CDU, there is a lot of combinations between 3d, type and
colour! Just like XWindows once upon a time, lots of configuring
Thanks and regards
Stu
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12-09-2004, 10:50 AM #10Thomas RichterGuest
Re: Terrain Data Files
Hi Stuart,
did you download the *.tar file with include DEM file, that you neede to
create DEM1 and DEM2 files ?
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Best Regards
Thomas - EW321
"Stuart Hume" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Hi Steven,
>
> Thanks for the offer, I got it to go tonight - its a weird one. Katy -
> not
> sure if you can replicate this, but there was a 0 length file in the
> Terrain
> folder in the PFD folder.
>
> All terrain info before that zero length file works, all terrain info
> after
> that doesnt. (I can understand how this could be possible as a
programmer)
>
> Removed the zero length file, and the terrain for YSSY etc came back -
> just
> as before.
>
> With regard to the CDU, there is a lot of combinations between 3d, type
> and
> colour! Just like XWindows once upon a time, lots of configuring
>
> Thanks and regards
> Stu
>
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