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    Hello,
    I still have this strange GS behaviour when intercepting. LOC will be intercepted normal and precise. When passing the GS the FD commands up A/T increases Thrust and the aircraft climbs up regardless of the altitude set on the MCP. LOC remains intercepted. I tried severals Builds of the PM GC and MCP. I don´t know whats going wrong. Maybe the MCP software itself or any other little adjust within the files...
    During the test I intercepting below glide with low speed (Flap5, 170 Kias) To me it looks like the MCP initiates a G/A when intercepting the GS.
    This behaviour is far away from any real aircraft characteristics. I hope I will fix it soon.
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    Well Brian trust me, been using PM for years and that is not normal PM behavior. Something is interacting or trying to take back over the aircraft by the sounds of it. Is this with the stock AC? You are not trying to use the stock AP in any form are you? How are you interfacing with the PM MCP? Mouse? Keyboard? Hardware? Something is defently interfering with the PM MCP.
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    Hi Brian just thought of something else. After you get LOC are you activating APP mode on the MCP?
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    Hi Bob,
    my setup...
    1. Server: FS 2004 using default 737, FSUIPC 3.71, WideFS 671, PM MCP software, CP USB MCP and L/R EFIS.
    2. Client1: PM GC CAPT
    2. Client2: PM GC F/O
    4. Client3: PM GC EICAS, PM CDU, PM rCDU, PM Sounds
    5. Client4: PM System (Phidget directly), PM GC Lower ENG page
    All PCs running WinXP pro, the Network (TCP/IP) is running very fast and stable.
    All functions on the EFIS units are working fast and without failures.
    The GC PFD/ND on both sides are very fast and without interupts.
    All WideFS Clients are set to ServerIPAddr=192,168.0.1
    One qestion...
    The PM MCP software is running on the server. So, there in no need to install Wide Client in the MCP software...
    right?
    All folders are shared...

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    Brian, that is correct. The MCP being on the server it is using FSUPIC directly. And you are activating APP mode once you have ILS LOC right?
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    Bob,
    The "pullup" on glide slope intercept accurs in both situations doesn´t matter whether VOR/LOC or APP is armed first.
    For real approaches we use both. Sometimes we arm LOC only and when established we arm APP. That is the same I do in my cockpit.
    The real logic is never to follow a GS when not established on the LOC.
    I think that You are right. There is anything interacting with the MCP, or the FS default A/P is not bypassed correctly.
    I dont know.
    Many, many thanks for help!!!
    If there is any interest in my project i will send some fotos...
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    Brian... PLEASE send the photos to our gallery! There is always interest to see what other builders are doing! Pictures, pictures we never can get enough pictures!!
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    Hi Brian,

    Have you tried setting up the approach on the MCP, Once established on the GS, disengage AP A. Leave GS/APP engaged along with the PFs Loc. Follow the AFDS directions and fly her down manually. Also cross check your flap schedule.

    Might be worth trying to eliminate the AP as the culprit. Dont know much about the 737 FS wise but maybe look at flight models by Posky or similar.

    http://www.projectopensky.com/downloads-index.php


    Hope you get it sorted.

    Regards

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    Hi James,
    tried it several times. Flew down the ILS beam manually, as soon I reengaged the FD it pulls up again. The command is comming fron the FD. LOC is o.k.
    By the way...
    The FS default A/P is working normal.
    Strange thing...
    So far, cuppled ILS is not working jet but my stickshaker is working very well.
    Never the less, cockpit building is a very demanding hobby, and I love it...
    Many thanks
    Brian

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    Brian.......WOW! Man you have a great looking project! If yuo guys have not seen it get over to the gallery and take a look. Where did you get those yokes?
    Bob Reed

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