eng start with pm sys

[Trevor Hale]

As far as I know, Yes.. #2 always first....

Even still, I can't get #2 to start no matter what from PMsystems..

[David Withers]

i think engines starts get rotated between each one dont they? or is it always the one furtherest from the cabin entry to start first ?? dunno.

just to throw a little spanner in the works ...when i do get my engines to start, the n2 drops down to about 12% and then climbs back up to a normal start when i lift my fuel levers.

[NicD]

You're supposed to be able to start either 1 or 2 first. It's definitely a problem with the latest PM systems build. I relayed that information to PM a few months back but they said the problem is not theirs. So I suggest everyone with the problem emails PM support to inform them that in fact the problem is theirs

[NNomad007]

What is the correct start sequence? Does #2 get started before #1 in the real world?

well, most companies have written procedures for start order, but generally speaking, allways #2 first.. for a hudge amount of boring reasons...(depends a lot on plane configuration..for example, on 3 engine aircrafts like L1011, DC10/MD11, 727, usually the tail engine is started first, so, #3 than #1 finally #2).. im more confortable talking about airbus type, and in that case there is a more solid reason to start #2 first: the yellow and green hydraulic pumps are connected to the #2 (being the blue and green one connected to #1), usually the brakes are powered by the yellow (parking break) and green (steering) hydraulics, so if #1 is powered first, only one system will be used in that engine (again.... it all depends on airline procedure based on technical considerations for the specific AC)..nevertheless, its very possible to see AC's starting #1 first... in your specific case, start #3 first, than feel free to make your own choice, it cant be said that starting #1 first is incorrect or otherwise...

Cheers

Alex

[Thomas Richter]

Hi

To pmSystems it doen't matter which engine you start first, it's just an Airline safety option because the doors are on the left (Eng-1).

I checked the Eng-Start again with the current version 114, default 737 file, and FS9. I don't see any problem.
Is it with FS9 or FSX?

[Michael Carter]

well, most companies have written procedures for start order, but generally speaking, allways #2 first.. for a hudge amount of boring reasons...(depends a lot on plane configuration..for example, on 3 engine aircrafts like L1011, DC10/MD11, 727, usually the tail engine is started first, so, #3 than #1 finally #2).. im more confortable talking about airbus type, and in that case there is a more solid reason to start #2 first: the yellow and green hydraulic pumps are connected to the #2 (being the blue and green one connected to #1), usually the brakes are powered by the yellow (parking break) and green (steering) hydraulics, so if #1 is powered first, only one system will be used in that engine (again.... it all depends on airline procedure based on technical considerations for the specific AC)..nevertheless, its very possible to see AC's starting #1 first... in your specific case, start #3 first, than feel free to make your own choice, it cant be said that starting #1 first is incorrect or otherwise...

Cheers

Alex

#3, or the right engine gets started first on the 727 because the Essential AC buss is supplied by that generator and also, the Essential AC buss receives 115AC from the APU to distribute through the synch buss.


Now back to your regularly scheduled PM discussion...

[Trevor Hale]

You're supposed to be able to start either 1 or 2 first. It's definitely a problem with the latest PM systems build. I relayed that information to PM a few months back but they said the problem is not theirs. So I suggest everyone with the problem emails PM support to inform them that in fact the problem is theirs

Nic, did you revert back to a previous version of Pmsystems? and if so would you have that laying around that I could snatch from you?

Trev

[NNomad007]

Allways learning...

[Trevor Hale]

Hi

To pmSystems it doen't matter which engine you start first, it's just an Airline safety option because the doors are on the left (Eng-1).

I checked the Eng-Start again with the current version 114, default 737 file, and FS9. I don't see any problem.
Is it with FS9 or FSX?

Thanks Thomas, I will check my version and try to do another start tonight.

Best regards,

Trev

[Thomas Richter]

Also important is to use ever the latest FSUIPC or FSUIP4.

But the ones they have engine start problems what is the FS you use?
FS9 (FS2004) or FSX ??
What software is running by side ?
What hardware is used?
Does your CutOff lever support the pmSystems Offset or direct to FS ONLY (I added for this an Option in pmSystems Option Menu)?