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    especially such an advanced airliner such as the triple seven. i'm sure you do get warnings when low on fuel. But the pilot would have carried enough fuel to get back to heathrow AND reserves so i don't know what went wrong. From recorded footage no fuel leak can be seen. Aparently the pilot was "one of the most experienced working for BA" rumour has it that Fuel was also present in the fuel tanks after the crash so this seems unlikely also the fact that seconds before the plane landed it passed a busy perimeter road. and reports said the noise was "very loud" how could this be when both engines were cut out??

    The chance of a double engine failure is very high (i think) 1/100,000,000!

    I'm afraid you will have to draw your own conclusions meanwhile the aaib are working on the wreckage and conducting interviews.
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    On news tonight: Autothrottle asked for more power several times at 600ft up. The engines failed to respond. Crew disengaged auto throttle and manually requested more power, again no response from the engines.

    Without power they missed the runway with the 1st officer bringing the plane in by hand.

    Edit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7196945.stm
    much more detail in the AAIB statement


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    interesting video of the T7 showing high pitch:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwQ4...r=asc&start=45


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    video with the captain speaking on a news conference:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...t=true&bbcws=2

    Since the crash is under investigation he could not give any further information.

    I have seen pictures where the RAT looked deployed, but it could also look that way because of the engines slamming into the ground. Untill the flightdata recorder has been analized any theory is no more that speculations.

    Pictures or the RAT seeming deployed:
    http://www.heathrowpictures.com/pict...72_gymmm15.jpg

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    from the initial report of the AAIB

    According to the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) at about 600ft "autothrottle demanded an increase in thrust from the two engines".

    After continued demands for increased thrust, and the "flight crew moving the throttle levers, the engines similarly failed to respond", the report indicated.

    "The aircraft speed reduced and the aircraft descended onto the grass short of the paved runway surface."

    The AAIB said the plane was using an instrument landing system (ILS) approach, which allows pilots to follow a set path and be guided in, as it was coming into runway 27L at Heathrow.

    Stopping at the very start of the paved surface of the runway, just inside the airfield boundary fence, the plane rolled on the ground.

    As it did the right main landing gear separated from the wing and the left main landing gear was pushed up through the wing roof, the report said.
    the report can be found here:
    http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/latest_ne...ial_report.cfm


    Well the most important thing is: no fatalities.


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    Nothing to do with me but it is now for sale on Ebay!

    item 330205464820

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil744 View Post
    Nothing to do with me but it is now for sale on Ebay!

    item 330205464820
    Good one!!!

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    HAHAHA

    And to think people are bidding on it.
    This is obviously a scam (don't bid)
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    I hope they will find the answer soon. Whole aviation society are waiting.

    BTW. This auction should be reported to Ebay.
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    Crashes can take just months to solve but on the other hand can take tens of years.

    It may come to having the whole B777 fleet grounded - who knows?
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    Does the 777 use mechanical linkage from the throttles to the engine fuel control, or is that an electronic interface?

    Something definately went wrong in that area somewhere.
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