Electric Motors for Motion Base?

[Jim NZ]

Same here please Marnix.
I'm planning ahead !

Thanks, Jim NZ

[wannabeaflyer]

Hi Marnix Back off Holiday and lookong forward to getting moving again with my project, Christmas spending never ends but ya gotta do what ya gotta do . anyways saw your thread and guess you could call it jumping on the band wagon but would also like to ask if i could get access to your data sheets as i am always looking into differnt means of actuation for my current 2DOF platform Project .... Had a look at a Design Made availabel at the Built For Fun website and that looks very doable easily within the average joes ability if your in this level of the game . but alway worry about long term pounding and loading my platform will subject any DIY actuator to . My Current Ower Steering hybrid Rack system works very well but, not yet stressed it out to the max as i am still developing the new Motion software which is based on Jims taster VB6 Code. so any new ideas regarding DIY actuator options or the science behind their construction are welcomed .. Cheers ..

[aviaparts]

I have uploaded the files here in mycockpit download library, as soon as the upload has been approved they will be available for download.
This first set of files is the option if you want to use DC geared motors, this was wat I was first planning and is used by the most manufacturers.
As I have mentionned before, the servo motor market has dropped in price, so this type of motors is in fact made for these kind of things. I am still waiting on a few details on these ones, so as soon as I have them I will also upload the files.

[Jim NZ]

Great stuff ,, Thanks for that Marnix.

JimNZ

[wannabeaflyer]

Just to say thanks for the info marnix all greatly appreciated... thise units are the real mcoy so im guessing the price tag is suitably expensive LOL but can see why they would be . any idea of the proce per unit Just for info ??

[aviaparts]

Here you have it in detail :

Motor = DC motor PENTA POWER

type 4L20 - 600W – 2000 rpm – 180VDC

B5/IEC71 – IP 54

PRICE : 460 Euro/pc

Reductor Type AMP60/3 – ratio 128/1 – Max Koppel 460Nm

As diam 35 mm – 6000N

PAM B5/IEC71

PRICE : 445 Euro/PCE

Steering = KB PENTA POWER type KBMG 212D

230VAC mono

Output variable 0 tot 200V dc

PRIJS : 395 Euro/PCE

Signal Isolator KB PENTA POWER KBSI 240D

PRIJS : 148 Euro/PCE

So roughly you can build a 3DOF motionbase with these industrial motors for a weight to 600 kgs for about 5000 Euro.

And that is exactly wat I am about to do

[Badge]

Thanks a lot for the info that is great news!

[Goose]

Guys, did you even think about wheelchair motors? Those DC motors can be used for motion platform as they are strong and moves smooth, and they are cheap (used from US).

[Badge]

Wouldn't but much faith in a wheelchair motor to move a 1500-2000lb cockpit.

[wannabeaflyer]

Hi Goose, regarding wheelchair motors, a had managed to get 4 of these off ebay at a brilliant price ( i tend to get s tuff now on the basis that if i have then more possiblites are open as and when differents ideas come up ) the motors i have have an output speed of typ 71 RPM and are made by FRAMCO as i was looking to beef up my wiper motor/steering Rack actuator i thought these would last longer, i have not yet connected these to my streering rack but based on th wiper motors ability to throw my platform and myself around i dont think they should be a problem and should get rid of the small amount of backdriving a still get with the wiper motors .... more speed would have been nice but at the time & Price they seemed to good to pass up so now my inventory of possible motors stands at 4 off 24Vdc wheelchair motor/gerabox combos, 4 off wiper motors 12Vdc , 4 off electric bed screw jack type linear actuator, ( 2 different makes ) which i got form a Recycling Yard and dont know if they are fuctional ( more like dont know how to wire them up to test since i did not get the control boxes ... ps my platform loaded at present is around 370lbs ( 180Kg ish )... still needs work but concept proves its doable.. Cheers .