Glaresheild overhang

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11-02-2007, 06:11 AM
QF6228

Glaresheild overhang

Hi Guys/Girls

Just a general question regarding the overhang of the glareshield from the M.I.P to the M.C.P on a 737ng. I am under the impression that it overhangs the M.I.P by 300mm?? It seems a bit much when I look at it and I can't seem to find any measurements to help me.
Does anyone have these correct measurements? Or would it be better just to ask how much overhang other 737 builders have.

Thanks people.
Damien
11-02-2007, 09:38 AM
Michael Carter

I forget now what you're building, but the 727 and 737-200 glareshield overhangs the MIP by 9-3/4" to the front edge of the fire rack, 11" to the edge of the top of the glareshield, and 12-5/8" to the front of the fire handles.

It's a lot farther than I thought too, but these are the real parts. It might not be that much for newer aircraft.
11-02-2007, 05:59 PM
QF6228

Thanks mate.

It all seems or i should say doesnt look right, i have now got new infomation that Lower edge of MCP is about 320mm aft from the Main Inst Panel and is angled about 15 degrees.

The overhang just gets bigger and bigger :roll:
11-02-2007, 06:11 PM
Westozy

Hi Damien,

I have been on the flight deck of Virgin Blue VH-VOS (737-800NG) with my tape measure! The face of the MCP was exactly 310mm from the face of the MIP. In my sim I made it 260mm as the whole glareshield is scaled to the CP Flight MCP, about 85%. You would be happy with anywhere between 260 - 310 I reckon, I don't have too many sun glare problems!!!

Gwyn
11-02-2007, 07:12 PM
QF6228

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westozy

Hi Damien,

I have been on the flight deck of Virgin Blue VH-VOS (737-800NG) with my tape measure! The face of the MCP was exactly 310mm from the face of the MIP. In my sim I made it 260mm as the whole glareshield is scaled to the CP Flight MCP, about 85%. You would be happy with anywhere between 260 - 310 I reckon, I don't have too many sun glare problems!!!

Gwyn

Thanks Gwyn

It's funny you say VH-VOS seem im looking right at this aircraft as I type this from work.....You would think that a guy like me that has access
to all the VB aircraft cockpits and sit in the jump seat every time I fly I would have all the measurements in the world BUT NO! good old lazy me....
I was actually thinking about going down stairs today to take a good look with one of the engineer's tape measures.

Thanks Gwyn I think ill try and go the shorter option myself as there is not much sunlight in my sim room...

Damien
05-13-2008, 10:39 PM
Carlos_Custodio

So helpfull... but do you know the MIP/MCP angle? Is it 90 degrees or + or - 15 degrees (75 or 105 degrees from MIP)? Thanks a lot.
05-14-2008, 08:37 AM
Tomlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos_Custodio

So helpfull... but do you know the MIP/MCP angle? Is it 90 degrees or + or - 15 degrees (75 or 105 degrees from MIP)? Thanks a lot.

Take the angle from the floor (that's 90 degrees) and angle away from the pilot 15 degrees. Your question's answer depends on what side you are looking at the stand from. Simply rotate the panel away from the pilots 15 degrees back, that's your angle.
05-14-2008, 01:42 PM
Carlos_Custodio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomlin

Take the angle from the floor (that's 90 degrees) and angle away from the pilot 15 degrees. Your question's answer depends on what side you are looking at the stand from. Simply rotate the panel away from the pilots 15 degrees back, that's your angle.

I´m back to my cockpit construction now.

Thanks a lot.
05-14-2008, 03:26 PM
ivar hestnes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos_Custodio

So helpfull... but do you know the MIP/MCP angle? Is it 90 degrees or + or - 15 degrees (75 or 105 degrees from MIP)? Thanks a lot.

As far as I know, this angle is 90 degrees. Thats the angle I use and it looks correct when comparing to photos from real aircraft.
05-14-2008, 07:02 PM
Carlos_Custodio

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivar hestnes

As far as I know, this angle is 90 degrees. Thats the angle I use and it looks correct when comparing to photos from real aircraft.

If I´m right... this is the real thing:

http://www.jcrobotics.kit.net/medida_mip_2b.jpg

Thanks a lot.
Carlos_Custodio.
05-14-2008, 07:49 PM
QF6228

Yes that picture is correct, I had a look at one of our aircaft @ work and that's how it is.

Thanks for the pic it will help alot of people out.

Damien
06-02-2008, 04:50 PM
vidarf

I just checked my FDS MIP (the new type), and the glareshield support is 31cm from the face of the MIP. 15 degrees on the MIP relative to the vertical axis is also correct.
I will have the Glare Wings from FlyEngravity within a week or so, and they're modeled after a real 737. I can check that for you when they arrive.
06-02-2008, 05:59 PM
Carlos_Custodio

Thanks a lot.

Carlos_Custodio