Garmin G1000

Hi Guys,

found this forum the other day, and the build of the Garmin G530 on here has inspired me to build two Garmin G1000 panels, i will use the FSX G1000 and any that come with aircraft to start of with.

I have got two 12.1" lcd screen coming to me (got quite cheap on ebay) which will be the starting point of the project, once i have got the scren i can then start the build. if there is a lot of interest i will keep a record of the build and update you all with pictures as i go.

Since this is my first FS harware project it should be intresting for me, i don't think the building it will be hard, the hardest part for me is the design of the face plate, pcb and making it operational.

Jason

A very interesting project you've started up with Jason. I am sure there will be many GA cockpitbuilders who will follow the updates and your building with great interest. Hope you will keep us informed.

well so far so good, i have managed to nail down almsot all of the sitches that i need, but there is one that eludes me, that is the multi functioon control that control;s the map zoom, menu scrolling etc, i can get a switch that willl do all but the left and right twist, so i am have to comprimise on this and put a zoom in out button in, i can find controllers (3axis mini sticks) but they are far to large to do what i need. looking at getting some switch covers custom made to fit the panel.

well back to it :)

I'm also planning to build three modules of G1000, two PFDs and one MD. I'm designing the bezels. As far as I could see in the specifications of Garmin the screens are 10.4 not 12.1.
I am as a reference that size for my design. (10.4)

Good luck on this project, keep us posted! We all get inspired the the successes of others! That 530 project is awesome.

Buddy

thanks for the encougement guys. quick question for those in the know, i don't have access to a g1000, so i am basing diemensions on pics etc,

one thing a icannot seem to get looking right is the buttons, anyone able to tell me what size buttons are used

thanks

Jason

I used dimensions from pictures too. The buttons at the bottom of the frame (12 in total) are 9 x 5 mm separated by 8.5 mm.
Remember that the measure of separation between the buttons will depend of the electronic components pitch that are multiples of 2.54 mm

we must be on to something, i got the same distance too, the size of the buttons are about what i had worked out to be as well. that has confirmed to me what i needed. now to find some caps that size, i am half by expecting to make them my self. from what i can tell all the buttons are the same size

Jason

I was checking the measure of the side buttons and I think it would be better to make them all equal to 9.5 mm x 6.5 mm (approx 3 / 8 "x 1 / 4"). The separation between them approximately 8 mm (5 / 16 "). I will made the buttons by CNC.

well i have finished the design of the fornt panel for the g1000, here are the design pics:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...14/audio-1.jpg

the audio panel

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ackpanel-1.jpg

the back panel of the g1000

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...eftpanel-1.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ghtpanel-1.jpg

the left and right panels, now the left and right has been designed to overlay the back panel (gets the 3d effect)

all the panels will be made in clear perspex, and i will paint and letter them myself, the goal is i will paint white first, then mask the lettering and symbols, and put on a couple of coats of black, this should hopefully block the light from backlighting that i hope to do later in the project.
cost for materials and laser cutting it about 240usd, which isn't too bad, some local companies what to charge double that

love to know what you think

also i am looking at buttons, i am thinking about getting some clear plastic square rod, cutting to size then painting, turning into quite a project this:)

Jason

Load up the DXF file and see if anyone here can give a hand with the cutouts and engraving. This does not look too complicated.

Milt

i have decided not to get engravings done as they add so much cost to the project, it was staggering to see how much a single line added to the price. it doesn't really bother me too much, i am thinking about adding the lines above the bottom switches with some thin plastic strip. it means it will be raised instead of resesced, the buttons won't be that hard to make, just time consuming, give me something to do while watching tv. and anywhay it is a simualtion not a replication. for me as long as it looks like the panle, and acts like it i am not to worried about the smaller details :) i will post the DXF files if anyone want to use them.

I would like to give it a go for you. Put up the files and I will give it a try. Always willing to help out.

Milt

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I would like to give it a go for you. Put up the files and I will give it a try. Always willing to help out.

Milt

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i have uploaded the files, just waiting for them to be cleared. the thing that gets me is the cost to make these, here in Aus it is almost twice the price without any engeaving or such, even shipped from america i think it will be cheaper, i would prefer the job done here, but cost factors put it out of my price range,

i would like to see what you can do with these, as this is my first project, so still learning the ropes as it were

Once I get the files, I will do a prelim cut out of foamed PVC just to see what it looks like. The I will give a go with 3.2mm Makrolon. Does not hurt to see if it can be done without taking out a loan.

Milt

would love to see the results, waht sort of cost would it be for these panels?

It will not be much, if anything. I enjoy helping out. Just have to wait for the files to post...may get to some of it today. I do not see any text on the files so far. I will be needing that part also. Plus, I will try and make some sort of switch tops if you can let me know the text.

Milt

there is no text on them as i didn't add any, i can add some text and reupload the files, as far as swithc tops, i will design some up

Ok, just waiting for the upload to get approved and posted.

Milt

hi i think the files are uploaded, i have made a quick button shape up, do you want me to send that to you direct

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Originally Posted by krähe

Hello,

this is my Garmin 1000 Cockpit with 12" Display and selfmade Frontplate from Schaeffer-AG.de

Works with PM GAGC

http://s3.directupload.net/file/d/2055/23y3g495_jpg.htm

Ronny

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that looks nice ronny, job well well done

yeah, thats fine.

Milt

I do not see the file posted yet. You did upload them to the downloads section, dxf files did you not?

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I do not see the file posted yet. You did upload them to the downloads section, dxf files did you not?

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yup. i can see them on the side menu, but maybe they ahven't been cleared yet

Yeah, they are on the sidebar, just can not access them yet.

Milt

A question for those who are making this project. With that plan to do so-called joystick control that is used for range / movement of the cursor on the map?. Thank you very much

Jose

i have used a five way nav joystick, i could not find one that has the twist function in it, i i am thinking i might have to use another switch for that part of it's function. it is digikey part number EG4561-ND. i am thinking this wqill work, but i will let you know once i have started the assembly

jason

Yes, I got one of the button files, but it is not a DXF file, I really eed it to be DXF. Send me the right one.

Milt

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Originally Posted by Jasmckee

i have used a five way nav joystick, i could not find one that has the twist function in it, i i am thinking i might have to use another switch for that part of it's function. it is digikey part number EG4561-ND. i am thinking this wqill work, but i will let you know once i have started the assembly

jason

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But this also turns to adjust the map range. According to the manual says has 23 positions from 500 ft to 2000 NM. How will you do that?. I am thinking of a rotary switch (KC1901) over your EG4561-ND

and that was my problem that i had, i couldn't find a switch that did all the functions that one required. i am thinking that the nav key will work better that a rotary as it will allow you to scroll the menus and such, for the zoom, i am thinking about a return to center switch, but again i am going to see what i can get to work, still on a look out for the correct switch/control, funny thing is that my car stereo has the exact control i need, but cannot find that control anywhere :)

Interesting thread. I am working on this too but with a 10.4" screen, not 12". It would be nice to use 12" because not many 10.4" screens are capable of 1024 res :(

The buttons are the trickiest part and finding concenrtic encoders for the knobs is proving hard work. In fact the button/knob issue wound me up so badly that I went and bought the original set from a Garmin distributor at great expense.

http://www.leons-world.com/img/g1000-cad_400.gif
http://www.leons-world.com/img/g1000_cad_600.gif
http://www.leons-world.com/img/g1000_but1_600.jpg
http://www.leons-world.com/img/g1000_but2_600.jpg

Chris

I have just uploaded the file I drew using Cut2d. I have already cut this panel in 1/4" lexan. I do not know how long it will take to post, but sometimes it can take a while. Any questions, just ask.

Milt

yes i am sort of resigned to the fact that until i can afford the genuine knobs the knobs will not be the exact replicas. i have found a source of know here is aus, so that has made life a little easier.


as far as the build goes, ihave got the panels, got the lcd controllers, now i am working on the back cover which will double as a holder for all the pcb's and the front panels will sit on top of it. just have to work out dimensions and actually build it. i have designed, etched and asembled all the pcbs for both screens, not what you would expect from mass produced items, but very tidy and usable none the less.

I have come up with a solution to the labeling issue, i am going to print my own decals on white decal paper. which will be put on to the panels and buttons, then depending on how much light is let through, i may have to put a coulpe of layers down. the decal method seems to be the most cost effective way i can find to do this. i will then clear laquer over them to give a nice hard finish

but everything is on hold at the moment, as my wife is in hospital with a blood clot in her leg, so until she is better everything else is on hold.

i will try and post some pictures of what i have accomplished so far when i get a chance

Jason

Jason, above all, take care of the wife first. I would be interested in seeing the PCBs, as I also make my own. I use the positive resist method. My boards have been coming out really well lately. One of these days I may even make something for myself...I am more interested in Helicopters than I am in planks. The Bell 206 may be the one I model.....who knows. Take care of the wife.

Milt

Really nice panel. Is it backlit?

Milt

I really do not know, but I imagine it should be.


Milt

well i am having to chop up the panels alttle to make it work, wo it isn't going to be quite the polished item i had hoped, a few things have cionsipred against me, th screens are the big one. but that is ok for me, as it was more about function and a simulation not an exact replica. will try and post some pics of the progress.

my wife is out of hospital, so i now have a bvit more time to work on my panels

Jason

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my wife is out of hospital

Jason

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This is a very good news. Congratulations

thanks it is good to have her home and not worrying so much

Jason

Glad to hear that your wife is home. Now, get back to work.

Milt