Oups, I noticed that my last post was not published (probably hit the wrong button again...)
So beta 15.3 has been available for a few days now, http://www.jeehell.org/A320FMGS_B15.3.zip
Cheers,
JL
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Oups, I noticed that my last post was not published (probably hit the wrong button again...)
So beta 15.3 has been available for a few days now, http://www.jeehell.org/A320FMGS_B15.3.zip
Cheers,
JL
Hello,
The new B16 is out and featuring a fully new AP/FBW module!!
The overall should be much smoother!
I corrected other bugs such as SIOC Creator issues.
the link: http://www.jeehell.org/A320FMGS_B16.zip
Cheers,
JL
Nice one, wrote you a mail ;)
Rgs, Patrick
Hi Jeehell, I've got another question in regards to the throttle setup. In your manual, it's stated that to set up the gates, you simply move the throttle quadrant to the gate (assuming we have a fancy custom made throttle quadrant with gates that is) and click the "remember position" button, but does this way of setting up a throttle quadrant mean that you have programmed the throttle progression between the gates linearly? For example, if you put the throttle in the idle detent and calibrate this position and then move it to the CL gate and once again configure it, then is the progression between the two points linear? If this is the case, then if the throttle quadrant is made poorly with incorrect angles measured between the detents then it is possible to have different gradients of throttle progression between various gates? I'm just trying to figure out how you have programmed the configurator. I can draw a diagram of what I mean if that didn't make sense.
Thanks
Dmitry
Hi Dmitry,
Yes, the commanded thrust varies linearly between each 2 gates. Thats why the soft asks for "calibration", as its almost impossible to have the exact same setup for everyone in terms of angular position of the levers.
JeeHell
Thanks, as I had suspected.
You wrote:
How I should do it?Quote:
From now, the PA FDE from Pedro Oliveira will be the basis of the AP/FBW software. All other aircraft aerodynamics have not been tested.
In the archive, you can find the PA FDE (p320v12.zip) as well as the iFDG airbus exterior model. You will have to merge the FDE yourself as copyright laws forbid me to do it for you...
I want to check Your program with the same configuration.
Do You plan to add support for dual side stick? Like FSCOM? http://www.flightsimulator.at/FSCOM/FscomOverview.htm
Hello,
To merge the new FDE, you just have to overwrite the aircraft.cfg and copy the new air file, and in the new aircraft.cfg, modify the flaps sections as described in the user guide.
But you can also keep using the iFDG package it should work without big problems its just I don't want to provide support for too many ACFT.
JL
I have a problem with merge, But Your FBW and AP works very well with the iFDG A320-211 Air France.
I ran the cockpit using four computers. I made the first flight with FMGS and I'm delighted. Also, the manuals are very accurate.
Awesome work!
Hello all!!
The latest B16.1 is available for download,
http://www.jeehell.org/A320FMGS_B16.1.zip
I worked mainly on the AP and FBW. They should be as real as it can get now, at least under normal situations !
If you're having any troubles, as usual...
Cheers,
JL
If you donwloaded before I posted this message, you might want to redownload the archive, as there was a little bug in SIOC Creator not opening older configuration files.
JL
Hi Jeehell, since I started using your software I've had an ongoing issue with selecting an aircraft model that suits your software. Earlier, you had a selection of aircraft that we could have used including the standard FSX A320, the iFDG. I noticed the last few releases have gone from the previous iFDG and standard FSX flight models in favor of the Project Airbus A320. Your manual hasn't been updated to account for this change and I'm just unsure of which Project Airbus aircraft I am able to use because I take it you are an FS2004 user? The manual in the PA320 file indicates that its for FS2004 and I've not been able to get it to work with FSX so I'm trying to figure out which Project Airbus airplane that will work with FSX that I can use that it's compatible with your software?
If you go to flightsim.com and search "FSX British Airways Airbus A320", I've managed to get that airplane working in FSX, but it handles totally incorrectly for some reason and its basically un-flyable so I'm not sure whether it's because it's not totally compatible with the software due to differences in the model to the one you are using or whether it's not being recognised by your software at all. I don't really care which plane I use i.e. which paint scheme, as long as it works. I've been trying to figure this question out myself but it's not documented in your manual and I'm out of my own ideas. Any tips?
EDIT: I just tried it again just then (although this time in a project airbus Lufthansa which was included as an installer as part of the adventures package which replicated the flight with the wing strike a few years back (a file you can download from FlightSim.com I believe) but based on the way it handled, I'd say it's very similar or probably identical to the BA Airbus that I alluded to earlier so I think that the software is interacting with the planes after all but it's just not doing the right thing or so I think (when I used the standard A320, the FBW appeared not to work for me for some reason or at least I thought it didn't because the plane handled as far as I could tell, identical to the default A320).
To give you an idea of what the problem might be... basically I think the ailerons aren't bad movement speed wise and they appear to stop the bank at 60 degrees but the elevator controls for me appear to be the root cause of the un-flyability. In particular, if I move the joystick to pitch the nose up or down, and if I move the joystick to its full extremity, nothing happens for several seconds and then the plane finally outputs the move and then I correct by going the other way but of course the same delay happens the other way as well and in the end, the plane goes out of control usually due to a stall. Upon takeoff for example, as I try to pitch the nose up to take off by holding the stick fully back, when the plane finally takes off, I release the stick in order to prevent a tail strike or a stall but the plane keeps pitching up due to the lag in the control surface movement response to the flight inputs and I end up stalling it and crashing. The same happens when I'm in mid flight so it's not any particular part of flight, I think its a universal issue I'm having and I'm not sure whether it's down to incompatibility or something else.
Hi
The iFDG should still be compatible. The PA should be somehow portable to FSX as well.
Actually, I use both FS9 and FSX.
In the FMGS package, you ll find the PA320 dynamics, which you can merge with the iFDG visual, since its just the air file it is compatible .
I will try tonight the BAW A320 you mentioned and report if I have any issue.
JL
OK just to confirm, the iFDG aircraft included in the FMGS package is compatible as is (well you sitll need to know how to install a FS9 aircraft into FS9, i.e. add a panel, make sure the effects are the effects folder etc...) with my FMGS, and it works pretty well on my setup.
Two question: what is you computer setup? do you use a network?
Just to make sure, the FMGS Server and the AP/FBW soft should be on the same computer as FSX!!
JL
Hi, I'm presently using just 1 computer but I'll be swapping over to a network very soon.
On another note, I just tried the BA aircraft again, and for some reason it appeared to act a bit more with it EDIT: tried it again, and again something not quite right. I think I need to test it a bit more as I've only really used the PA and iFDG once or twice before, encountered the problems that I described previously and reverted back to using the default Airbus. I can't use the software to its full extent at the moment anyway because I don't have a joystick thats compatible with windows 7 but when the network is up with the better second computer (hopefully within the next week or so), I'll be able to finally test the software to its full potential. Up to now, I've just been holding F4 the whole way and using the mouse :). But I will say that compared to other aircraft that I had, I'm pretty sure the problem was very real, I'm not 100% why it appeared to be a lot better this time around but as I said, I think I need to experiment with it all a bit more. I launched it following the steps in the manual, and for some reason I think the problem wasn't there... not sure still... haven't had time to troubleshoot it properly. Once I have my joystick up and running I think I'll be able to be a bit more accurate the definition of my problem. I think it might just be an issue with using the mouse with auto trim that might be causing the issue but I'm not sure.
I used to add a lot of aircraft to FS2002 (mainly for AI purposes) so I'm somewhat sure of how to import aircraft into FS, with FSX however, I've not had any luck for some reason, no matter how many times I've read the tutorials on how to do it and after doing the exact same steps as I used to do and as they are suggested in the FSX specific tutorials, for some reason, the only aircraft that I've only ever been able to have appear in FSX were the ones that came with installer files which are far in between, so I've mostly been flying with default aircraft up to now... mostly setting up hardware, software, that kind of stuff. But certainly, I'll have to figure out why today I was getting a better result with my setup.
The one question that keeps bugging me, is how does your software actually talk to the aircraft? i.e. do I need to chuck the performance data into the aircraft flight model folder? I don't quite understand how selecting PA320 in the AP.FBW module lets the program know which FSX aircraft you are flying. (or does it simply override anything in the aircraft folders thats related to AP and FBW? so I presume it overrides the stuff in the panels folder and I suppose the model folder as well?) I think I followed everything in the manual but I'm not sure whether I have to add anything to the aircraft folder for it work properly? I'm pretty sure I don't but yer not 100% on this one.
Hi,
Ok I hope I will have more time today to test the BA acft.
How my software talks to the aircraft? When you select PA320 in the AP.FBW module, it loads a predefined set of tuning values, which tells the AP.FBW module how to act onto the flight governs (i.e. push hard or soft on the ailerons/elevators). The joystick is no longer directly linked to the control surfaces, the signal is intercepted by the AP.FBW, which then (according to th joystick inputs, current flight data like IAS, gload, roll, pitch ,etc) calculates what the new governs commands will be.
As every addons have a different behaviour in response to flight controls inputs, it's up to my software to handle them differently. Since maintaining a set of tuning values for one aircraft is a very difficult and time consuming thing, I do not wish to do it for too many aircraft...
JL
Ok I think I might have found the issue. It's related to FSX only, I will try to correct and keep you advised.
Try one thing, fly on a constant heading and try the vertical features (OP CLB and VS) to see if you get a coherent AP?
Thanks for the information and I will try what you suggested as soon as possible. I'm presently looking at monitors for my PFD and as soon as I get them, I will finally be able to get my second computer going which has joystick ports so I'll finally be able to calibrate the throttles and try the AP. So I'll let you know as soon as that happens (hopefully within the next one or two weeks).
Hi Jeehell, I'm flying a test flight now and it seems that the FBW behaviour has some problems. It uses the rudder too much so that the plane swings rapidly from left to right continuously. If I disable the FBW then it flies straight, or if I override the autopilot and move the rudder myself a little bit, then it flies straight also but as I return the rudder to the neutral position it starts swinging again.
Hi,
I noticed that as well, I'll try to correct that and keep you posted.
JL
Hi,
Ok here the latest beta.
http://www.jeehell.org/A320FMGS_B16.2.zip
The rudder problem should be gone.
Also, I corrected the FD pitch behavior a little bit, added alpha and High speed protection modes, and corrected a few bugs.
Cheers,
JL
Good work, always getting better :)
Congratulations for the project is very good.
Just a question. In FSX is uncontrollable because the performance for the FSXA321 no longer exists in AP / FBW since version B15.3 . Why?
How can I fly in FSX, please help.
The elevator does not respond properly and the AP / FBW is crazy, I think that's it.
Sorry my english
Regards
LM
Sorry I haven't been able to reply. I've finally got a second computer setup. It's my crappy old laptop but my joystick works with it after inserting a sound card into it. Anyway, the first problem was trying to figure out how to get FSX on the main rig to recognise the joystick on an external computer. I've asked around on this forum and have had a few solutions presented but I've not been able to try the solutions due to a second problem. The second problem is that my main rig has kicked the bucket. It doesn't even load the BIOS so I've spent about a week trying to fix it but looks like I'll need to send it back for RMA so I've spent a few days trying to figure out how to do that. Either way, I've just had computer troubles pretty much for the past 2-3 weeks. Very frustrating but yer, that's why I haven't been able to report back with the results. Sorry for the delay.
I pointed out this as a possible issue a few posts ago and JeeHell believes he has identified the issue. Maybe you can try what he suggested a few posts back and try to figure out how to fix the problem together while I get my computer back online so that I can contribute.Quote:
Originally Posted by aeropt
I managed to install p320v12 in FSX, but still does not work. The elevator seems crazy, I think right now the A320FMGS not work with FSX.
Can anyone help?
LM
Hi,
sorry for the late reply, but I'm currently very busy moving in a new place and the computer is boxed until further notice...
With version B16.2, the software is fully compatible with FSX and the p320v12 or the iFDG, I use it myself without problems. Your elevator problem may come from somewhere else (like the AP/FBW run on a slow computer, or not on the FSX computer). More details on your setup could help me.
JL
The version B15.3 work perfectly with default a321, but since version B16 the elevator is uncontrollable.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeehell
My computer is:
Core 2 duo 2.2 Gz
2 Gb memory
Windows XP
FSX with Acelerator (more than 40 fps)
I use Fsuipc 4.30 (should not be so, because the rest of system works well)
I use a second computer with SD MCDU and OVHD
If you can, please put here detailed intructions to use B16 in FSX, maybe I have to do something wrong.
Thanks
LM
hi,
the default A320 is no longer supported because there are really much better free alternatives (iFDG or pa etc) and it really is a lot of work to maintain compatibility with several acft, so please try to use the ifdg provided in the archive. If you still encounter issues report back here!
Cheers,
JL
Hi!
I tried with the PA and the IFDG, but the result is exactly the same.
When I turn on the AP, the elevator is crazy, increase the pitch until Stall.
If I try to fly manual with FBW active, the same thing happens, is uncontrollable.
The ailerons seem to work well, the problem is only vertical.
I think it will issue the AP / FBW, but I dont know.
It may be some configuration of my FSX?
I have FSX in 50 frames per second, I think the problem is not my machine. This happens only from version B16.
Please help me.
Thanks
LM
Hmm weird.
Did you use FSUIPC joystick calibration features?
I cannot test anything until I unpack my dev' computer, so not before a week or so I think...
JL
Hi!
I dont use FSUIPC joystick calibration features.
I can tell you that in FS2004 Version B16x work perfactly in the same machine.
But in FSX the problem mantain.
Regards
LM
Strange.
Hoepfully I can use my main computer again in a few days. I'll keep you posted.
JL
Hi again,
It seems you're right, with FSX there are some problems. Very weird, in my mind I was sure I tested it OK with FSX.
I will do some more tests to find out where the problem lies, it might just be a small glitch which appeared after i tested it...
JL
Hi!
Good work
hoped for a solution.
Thanks for your patience.
LM
Hi,
I did some more tests tonight.
And I have strange behaviours.
First, I tried the standard iFDG, as it loads automatically when FSX launches. And it works well.
Then I switch to the project airbus one then everything is messed up in the elevator control.
Back to the theiFDG one and it does no longer work???
Then I closed and launched again the AP/FBW module and it worked again with the iFDG.
So, if you want to help, I could use some more thorough testing. If you feel like it?
It simply consists in testing various configurations (various combinations of aircraft models and launching/closing the AP to see if it works).
Cheers,
JL
Sorry for the delay,
After some testing, the result is always the same, so I turn on the AP ahead of the airplane begins to climb over without stopping.
Already tested with various models and even the IFDG the result is bad.
The problem must be in transition from version B15 to B16.
If you need help tell me.
Regards
LM
Ok I will try to look at that next week, very hectic end of year days right now ;)
JL
Hi all,
I finished the B16.3, http://www.jeehell.org/A320FMGS_B16.3.zip.
It corrects quite a number of little bugs, and I tried to change the FD behaviour as well.
Happy new year!
Aeropt: tell me if it changed anything for you...
JL
Hi,
Just corrected minor bugs (concerning SIOC Creator), if you downloaded the archive before this post, the same link has been updated.
Cheers,
JL
Hi,
with the 16.3 Version I'm not able to connect the client applications like EWD SD etc to the server anymore!
They are running on a different PC and I entered the IP=xxx.xxx.... in the network.cfg as before.
With the old 16.2 applications it works over the network but not with the 16.3
On the same machine all are running well!
Rgds, Patrick