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Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by zeineddine
I' always study for simworls and glareshieds. I saw the modl of simworld but i like very much the fds glare. In your post you talked about a sim builder who have connecting both. Could you remember where was these pics/topic ?
Best regrards,
guy
Just wondering if everyone that has the prosimparts overhead panel are building their own frame for it, or is there a panel frame you recommend?
Filip from simworld has sent me some pictures of their aluminium stand.
Looks like they nearly have a complete package at a very competitive price!
The only big advantage I can think of with FDS and flyengravity is their integrated back lighting, or internal back lighting within the MIP itself.
How have you guys decided to backlight your panels?
Could you send me these pictures because I am studying the construction of the mine.
I built my own frame for my ProSimParts overhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeckerZ
Blue Skies - A 737 Cockpit Project
I'd love to get a metal frame for it but it's a $500+ gamble to whether the panels will properly line up on the rail holes.
Not too sure about ProsimParts but I believe the simworld OVH fit the FDS frames nicely. Home cockpit 737 update - YouTube
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Originally Posted by nolatron
Hi Gufau, I sent you the pics, lets continue our conversation here for the benefit of everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufau
I have asked simparts.de and they are unsure if their panels work with the simworld MIP -- hopefully all you need to do is drill holes for the correct fitting.
As for the CDU-bay, yes -- others have managed to fit a screen in place, you just have to flip it vertically, but there will be a little section sticking out.
I went on Red 5 Aviation flight simulator today -- VERY professional.
Here are some pictures -- https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=981c65ebd3
And a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxhld...WaTg1OjCVethoQ
More videos to come!
Thank's OmniAtlas, it looks very good. He did not even put anything on the site ...
For Simparts, I hope it will, it's very good material, with backlight bulbs as in the true. Now the problem is that not Simworld 1x1 standards and when you want to install third-party components that are standards, there are concerns.
This is the problem to install a "cdu bay" because there is not enough space between the two "lower frame". So yes, we must move from the place reserved for cdu 2 and EICAS.
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Originally Posted by gufau
I think FDS is the only vendor which uses backlight bulbs? I know flyengravity are using LED lights. Regardless, please let us know how your project goes -- simparts panels with simworld MIP; I'll be going down this route as well if it works effectively. Cheers.
Yes, OmniAtlas, you are right, are not bulbs but "SMD LED" 180o. I had not watched enough features. The problem with this implementation is that the replacement of an LED is difficult ...
For the rest of my mip with panel Simparts.de: For security reasons I decided to take the backpanel and panel Simparts. To avoid the additional costs, I first started with a "MIP backplate DU" to see if it was adapted. This is the receipt and fitting that I realized Simworld did not meet the 1x1. In short, we must adapt. At this stage, normally panels must adapt because they rest on backpanel.
Oh, I forgot, Simworld gave me the "new" frame that are better adapted to receive the "glare". They are also with larger panels at the location holes.
For stands, I contacted Filip but I feel that the production is not yet available although he told me that if I wanted he could do ..
Hi gufau,
I've been in touched with filip and he says they are working on a backlighting kit, with an estimated time of 2 months.
I would wait if you haven't already bought your parts. Best regards.
Ben
Hi,
I have not yet ordered the parts because I'm in limbo with the announcement of Filip: new backplate with ci for the backlight.
However, I began to ask myself whether "any added" with eg "side" in addition, we will not get to "exceed" a "MIP Main-2 by FDS ...
regards,
guy
Looks like simworld may be going the way of CANBUS? Can someone explain this new system?
Hello OmniAtlas,
I can only give a little explanation.
CANBUS is a system where one central brain controls all activity on the bus. This works with simpler wiring and ensures easy addition of extra modules. Another benefit would be that the CANBUS system is very lean in regard to data traveling on the bus since it will only pass on changes in state, so it will not constantly signal that a switch is in the on or off position but will only signal when the switch is operated. The CANBUS system also works great when adding logic modules, no changes to the whole system are necessary, only an updated driver should be sufficient to plug-in an extra module and use it as well. No user programming necessary (but also not possible)
AFAIK the CANBUS system is widely used in the automotive sector (BMW, Mercedes, etc) and I know it from BMW motorcycles. One aspect that is of some importance to know is that for the BMW motorcycles any defective module will be recognized as such by the central brain and taken off the bus rendering it inoperable. So a defective sensor or switch will be set to inactive and no longer can send any info on the CANBUS system, the advantage is that a defective part cannot destroy the rest of the connected parts or modules.
This is about as far as my understanding goes, the Web should provide you with plenty additional information. e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN_bus
I do believe that use of CANBUS will provide many opportunities and will mostly benefit plug-and-play solutions making life easier for the builders.
I hope this helps,
Best regards,
Marc
thank you Marc - I heard it will also make it more affordable for the home cockpit builder?Quote:
Originally Posted by petersm99
Hello OmniAtlas,
Glad I could help a little. Regarding the pricing, I have no idea whether it will be a cheaper solution or not.
The biggest advantage for the automotive sector is that less wiring is required and that the Canbus system is more stable and reliable. Personally I think that it will greatly depend on proper design, implementation and thorough testing.
Best regards,
Marc
Thanks Marc, do you think there will be any advantages over plug and play solutions like those offered by flyengravity?
i heard simparts.de is also going the canbus system way with prosim737 support. This is from what people have seen over this recent FS weekend.
Hello OmniAtlas,
You are absolutely correct, Simparts from Germany has also developed their own Canbus interface.
I just did not get the chance to have an in-depth look at it due to time restraints and the stand being too crowded. I am glad that other visitors are adding info.
I do not know whether it will have advantages over the currently marketed P&P systems, however, Canbus is P&P and I do believe that companies will make the move towards Canbus. One major advantage that I can see is that whenever they want to add functionality, it is a matter of just adding the Canbus module and it should all function as designed, this versus making new connections, changing the wiring or having other difficulties trying to incorporate new functionality into existing designs. Adding extra parts to current P&P modules is no simple task I imagine. Canbus may make that a lot easier.
Best Regards,
Marc
Ben , where is this sim?
Simworls has integrated canbus systems....they gave me a price quote for a full MIP...out of my reach for now
Hi OmniAtlas,
I sent an email to Filip after the announcement of his system "canbus" but still no response or anything new on the site.
Would you have more information?
Regards,
Guy
No, don't have much information about how the system works. Flilip just sent me a photo and a price for their MIP (backlit) with CANBUS integration.
Wait? soo canbus is the perfect thing for mounting all leds and all swtiches just in one board? and how do you program them? do you need resistor for the leds?
Simparts.de sell CANBUS Master Controller
"simparts.de sell CANBUS Master Controler"
Where, on them site ?
Thank's to you,
This is very interesting. In addition, they use a ethernet transport it's great! Simworld will be in usb
Now, we do not yet see on the site panels, etc that support this CANBUS ..
My only issue -- has anyone actually used the CANBUS system? I haven't seen any reviews online.
Do anyone know if the simparts MIP frame is working/compitable with the simworld panels?
Or should i build my own MIP frame? but what is the measurments for spacing betwheen each panel for the MIP?
There are new frame for some time. The openings are larger to accommodate new backplate and new panels.
When I bought my frame, Filip asked me if I wanted some old models or new.
Should now again asked him if this is still the case but there is no reason ...
I believe simworld sells their own frame. You have to personally inquire.
Well, it does not move quickly on the site
I figured with the way things are going and prices --Simworld: MIP with metal frame 800 euro Backlighting panels: 200 euroMetal stand: 100 euroComes pretty close to the FDS main MIP panel already, so I may just go with FDS.
Yes, it seem possible fot fds
Where did you get this information about simworld ? is it with the new system ?
I heard by email from Filip. The new canbus system is too expensive at the moment. Perhaps simparts (Germany) would be an alternative option? Their canbus system is on sale for 300 euro.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufau
2014 will be an exciting year - all these vendors are bringing out new technologies.
When you say that the new system canbus Simworld is too expensive, is it your view or is that Filip decided to wait it out?
Yes, Simparts is very interesting but also very expensive too. We'll see with the new panels because currently there is not much on the site (as Simworld)
The complete MIP with CANBUS is out of my budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufau
Well, there is something new on the site and expensive ...
The question is whether those who started with boxed frame will implement the new panels
Yes, 7000 euro, over my budget.
The FDS full MIP will set you back 4000+ CAD including the electronics, and include the CDU bay.
How much does those vendors exacly earn? for buy the aleminum and parts and stuff like that cant cost above 2000 euro?