would love too, but unfoirtuantly i am on proper holidays until tuesday, so i am just going to have to stay at home;)
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would love too, but unfoirtuantly i am on proper holidays until tuesday, so i am just going to have to stay at home;)
I am also planning to use G1000 in my sim, however I am not sure whether to use 12" or 10,4" LCD. I'd like to use the latter one, as it is the size of the monitors in Tecnam P2006t but I am afraid that the resolution might be too low...Quote:
Originally Posted by cjellwood
I cannot find any similar knobs either, therefore I got interested in buying original Garmin ones. Can you please tell me what the cost for the whole set was?
Thanks in advance for help :)
The total price for knobs (PFD and MFD) was £170. I thought the order would include buttons but just knobs unfortunately.
Chris
Wow thanks for such a quick response :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cjellwood
That's expensive, especially considering that they don't include buttons... I sent an e-mail to Garmin asking for the whole set including buttons but I'm still waiting for the answer...
Anyway, thanks once again :)
Garmin will just forward you to one of their suppliers. If you are in the UK then contact a guy named Alec Vincent at www.rgv.co.uk
Let me know if you get word on the buttons because I still need those
Chris
well i am starting from scrath again, the screens did not fit the faces very well at all, my fault for not thinking it through and giving my self a little more room to work. so i have redesigned the front panels, and will get these made from aluminimum, still working out how to back light the buttons and such, but may for goe this as it could add alot more issues than anything, as far as the buttons goe, i had some made, not the exact replicas, but close enough.
as far as the panel goes, i will be createing home made dry transfers for the lettering and symbols, then procect them with some semi gloss clear laquer. now all i have to do is redesign the pcbs, get some elma dual encoders and start work. hope to have some pics as i get it done.
the 12.1 screen i use atre 800x600pixels in size but are running at a 1024x768 res, they look good running the minstart aviation g1000 software. i belive that the g1000's don't have a higher res than what i am using anyways
Jason
maybe we can work together on the next round because next week I will be commissioning a 3D design and aluminium prototype of the G1000 surround panel. There is no reason why that part cannot be formed from ABS but the hole trimming will be a pain unless it goes into a CNC afterwards. We probably have differing screen sizes anyway but worth mentioning.
Chris
would be intrested in seeing the finished product and what sort of cost it would be, for me to get the panels made and sent to me, in 3mm aluminmum it is going to cost about $300aud, i will have to do a few little things like paint and letter it and drill mounting holes, and of course it wont have the 3d relief that the real garmins have.Quote:
Originally Posted by cjellwood
as far as the screens go, i have found that you need to add a little bit around the screens to get it all to fit properly, it is only about 5mm each side, but that allows the screesn to sit flush with the panel and give you room for the switches and PCB's. i am using the AUoptronics 12.1 lcds for mine, and i will be going to use the leodebonar dual encoders, means i will be buying his card too, and the OC mastercard doesn't like these encoders, and using the encoder card will be way to expensive.
if you would like to know more spec about the lcds i am using let me know.
Jason
About this, I was looking and the various softwares that simulate G-1000 using combinations of keys to its commands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasmckee
Reason for which I will use for my encoders and switches an OC USBKeys and Encoders II card with a modified PIC.
About the LCD screen, can you give us the specific model??. I am seen, those are only the LCD panel for repair notebooks.
Thank you very much
Hurrah! Glad to see I'm not alone. Very interesting project. I'm also building a Garmin 1000 equipped aircraft (C172) using Project Magenta GAGC. I'm using 10.4inch Toshiba screens used for kiosks. I had trouble fitting the screens around the buttons, still trying to work this one out. The screen frame seems to extend to the left, so I have to work aorund that. Also using Leo Bodnar's Elma dual encoders for mine too.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__9E8h0v10e...s+Project.jpeg
Keep us posted Jason. The design is looking good.
Rhydian
My Blog here...
http://www.cessnaglasscockpit.blogspot.com/
hi the screens are auoptronics G121SN01, i am using these witha card i got from ebay which allows you to use it like a standard monitor. on that note things have changed as far as building the g1000, in fact i am stopping, my simutlator intrests are changing and i am looking at building a boeing product sim. as such i will be selling the screens (will list in for sale area). main descision for this has been easy location of beoing panels etc.
Rhydian, there are two ways you can tackle the screen problem (i have the same, but on both sides of the screen) one way is to extened bezels around the screen (not an exact replica then, but 5-10mm is not that noticable) or option two is to get some tiny micro switches and work out a mounting system for the buttons and such. i was ging done the first route.
hope that helps a little
Jason
Hi Guys
My name is Vitor I’m from Portugal and I’m a Flight simulator enthusiast I started to build my own simulator but after that some of my friends ask me o do some parts for them because of that I developed several aircraft parts in a fair price not to win money but to help anyone who loves this hobby let him get a realistic felling, as you can see I’m selling some of them in classified item if anyone is interested let me know.
Right now I’m developing a G1000 to be used with a 10” tft I already have a preliminary draw (see photos) I’m thinking to do it using 3D printer or stereolitografy but this is only possible if we can do a list of interested guys in this product this technology is very precise but is very expensive too, anyone have other ideas? Anyone have a 3D scan from the original G1000? I’m open to help you in any develop that you need I’m able to do any parts you would need you can contact me to my email vamaral@portugalmail.com
Cheers Vitor :grin:
Jason: Can you give us the card model or some info about this?. I can see that option (notebook panel + converter card) is cheaper than a monitor. Thank you very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasmckee
Jose
I have a solution, I have made a brief mockup of using 2 x ebay 12" touchscreen monitors!
http://alexpilot.50g.com/mockupgarmin.jpg
Two of these monitors cost £360 combined! All you would need is to make the centre panel which just consists of knobs and buttons.
Cheap and effective, you will just need software and offsets and then you should be pretty much ok!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=280504773909. this is the card i got, you let them know what screen you have and they will program the controller to work for it, nice and cheap and best part, it works too. hope this helps a littleQuote:
Originally Posted by jollive
Jason
Wow, this work is very impressive. I would love to see our own software displayed in these beautiful bezels/hardware. I work with a small group of programmers in California to create instrumentation and avionics for flight simulators. We recently completed the final testing and release of our Garmin G1000 (we call it the FTS1000). Short of buying the real hardware, it does not get any closer to the real thing than this. Autopilot integration, WAAS, RNP and ILS approaches on a 28 day renewal cycle, and available for 12 different aircraft. It was tailored for pilots working on an IFR rating using glass cockpits and GA aircraft. Check out this video of the software in an FAA approved AATD flight simulator from Precision Flight Controls. The cost for home simmers and non-commercial use is only $140 US plus taxes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHnIkKNx50k
epaton,
Your product does look very impressive, but is it only X-plane?
Only X-Plane currently. Yes, it works over a network with two computers.
Any news about this project?. I'm working in the design of the PCB and the frame. I've bought a 10.4 LCD monito to disarm and prove it.
Has anyone solved the issue of navigation switch?.
Does anyone know if it's 4 or 8-way navigation plus encoder?.
Some manuals show 4 positions but some software supports 8 assignments.
Thank you very much and greetings to all.
Jose
I think you are asking about the joy for panning the map. correct? It is an 8 way joy. SimAVIO FTS1000 has key assignments for all 8 positions, plus the left, right and push for the encoder.Quote:
Originally Posted by jollive
There is a new SimAVIO Garmin G1000 in beta that has the following new features:
• Panel builder: open/edit and create new instrument panels!!!
• Aircraft sounds are now generated by SimAVIO to resolve issue with X-Plane sound muting when not the active window!!!
• Performance enhancements eliminate issues with unresponsiveness in SimAVIO while pressing buttons/knobs.
• FTS1000 fixes and further feature enhancements
• Avidyne fixes and further feature enhancements
• Analog panel fixes and further feature enhancements
• New aircraft:
o Robinson R22 helicopter (new product)
o Cessna 425 and Cessna 340 (merged into the Cessna product)
o Cirrus SR20 steam gauge (non-Avidyne)(merged into the Cirrus product)
• Garmin G1000 specific X-Plane acf files for Cessna aircraft with accurate electrics and systems
• Graphical user interface for assigning buttons/knobs to your keyboard
• Graphical user interface for Opening/Saving panels and layouts
• Match SimAVIO panels with X-Plane aircraft for seamless auto loading without renaming files
• Hide mouse-over indications to enhance the look of your bezels
• GUI controls to adjust X-Plane’s visual horizon for enhancement visibility over your panel’s glare shield
• Reversion projection: used in rare cases when cockpit builders back-project the instruments from behind the panel
• Diagnostic charts for tracing performance related issues and troubleshooting
• Sound mixer to adjust the volume in various categories
• Merging of our Standalone Avionics product into ALL analog panel products (for those who qualify for an upgrade, just ask for any of our existing analog products)
• Added a 7 day grace period for you to unlock SimAVIO. You have 100% functionality immediately after download
• Help menu has quick-links to the log files, manual, web support, and diagnostic tools.
• Tool for transferring your SimAVIO license to a new computer
Ronny, thanks for the link to F1 product. I didn´t know this software.
Eric, I know about the FTS1000. It has 8 positions.
But Project Magenta has 4 though 8 arrows
The photographs of the real aircraft has 4 arrows.
As this Navegation switch can not be bought in the market will have to build from a navigation switch plus an encoder.
That Navegation switch in real plane is 4 or 8 positions
The 8 way joy + encoder + push switch is available for sale in the US. I don't know who makes it, but I know PFC uses one in their Garmin G1000 bezel. You can always just purchase their bezels (but whats the fun in that!)
i found this in aus at farnells http://au.element14.com/alps/rkjxk12...pcb/dp/1656443Quote:
Originally Posted by epaton
this was the closest i could find, the pcb was the biggest problem for my and my project has ground to a halt. other commitments have come up. would love to see some progress pics or drawings. i think it would be considarably cheaper to build your own as apposed to buying a ready made bezel, mind you if i could i would buy a ready made one if it wasn't prohibativly expensive
Jason
Hey,
perhaps I found what you are looking for. A Joystick with rotary encoder and push function in it. It is also used for automotive applications.
Grayhill Encoder
Regards,
Bastian
bingo that is the one it looks like it does everything needed, not sure about interfacing though, could be a challange same with finding one to buy
Jason
Perhaps you can use a small microcontroller interface. Something like an arduino board...
Someone did already the interfacing with an encoder. For example, you can can simply add the board as a HID via USB and let it send a keystroke for "increase", "decrease", joystick directions and push button. These keystrokes you can assign in your FS. I think you can do this with all of your buttons of the G1000. Or you can use the board as a Joystick interface with buttons you can assign in your FS.
Regards
Bastian
I find this http://www.alps.com/WebObjects/catal...Output%20Chart from ALPS.
But it has 4 directional switches. Here I ask again. Has the real G1000 a 4 directions switch or 8 directions switch?
Hi all,
long time no new posts here. i am currently investigating on doing a similar project for Citation Mustang using the Flight1 Model and everything.
The hardest part for me as a perfectionist is to find the correct dimensions of the GFC 700 and the Keyboard. Maybe somebody has those. I am planning to use Acrylic for the G1000 MFD and PFD as well for the GFC700 unit.
As switches I intend to use MEC switches with frost white 1X round and square caps which I intend to paint and have them engraved unless i find a better solution.
Has anybody thought of the idea instead of using engraving techniques to use etching? maybe a thin brass or copper foil and glue it to the acrylic?
Have a nice day!
Jan
Check your PM'sQuote:
Originally Posted by jan_eddh