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michelmvd
05-24-2007, 09:59 AM
New versions of the cdu and other PM programs are available on the intermediate builds webpage.
Will to test this evening and inform here
B. Rgds
Michel

dcutugno
05-24-2007, 12:28 PM
Ok, we got a new job!

Beta Tester for PM!!!:o :o :o

Jackpilot
05-24-2007, 12:49 PM
There is an important note on the new builds text.


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- the version of the navdata is now being displayed in the FMC
- ideally, please do not mix up old navdata with the newer builds
- Navigraph navdata of newer cycles should include the converter version 10
(this can be checked on the IDENT page PM-XXX-10)
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touwersl
05-24-2007, 05:49 PM
Hi Guys,

I tested the 391a CDU with the CDUNAV_0704 navdata tonight on a quick flight from EHAM to EDDS. Unforunately the CDU messed up the route again when inserting the BADSO STAR for EDDS.
I also noted that the aircraft immediately starts to follow the white dotted line that occurs when I select the arrival RWY at EDDS even though the route modifications have not been executed yet.

Of course I reported this back to Enrico tonight. I will try to make a more extensive testflight tomorrow and make a comprehensive report of the flight.
What are your experiences wit this new release?

marco
05-25-2007, 03:40 AM
Hello,

Two flights accomplished this morning with the same problem as Touwers has mentioned and also a new problem concerning the N1 speed reported on an another post !

But I'm sure Enrico will resolve everythink in a short time;)

Marco

marco
05-26-2007, 03:52 PM
Hello,

Just tested the version CDU391d, it was a big desaster. Indeed when you select a star or a runway for the arrival the CDU stops immediately. Don't install this version.

Best Regards.


Marco

marco
05-27-2007, 03:56 AM
Hello,

Just finished a FSX flight with the last cdu version (cdu391ee.zip). Climbing fase without any problem. Cruze fase ; impossible to reach my cruze speed (mach 0.80 with a boeing 737-700) probably due to the restriction of max N1 (0.92). Descent fase : no problem till you are in full automatic (VNAV and LNAV engaged) but if you want to control your altitude and your speed the a/t don't respect your speed anymore and you must to disconnect the a/t till your landing.
Otherwise many thanks to Enrico for his efforts and have a nice Sunday to everybody.

Best Regards

Marco

NicD
05-27-2007, 09:49 AM
Thanks Marco - has the STAR selection bug been fixed in that version?

marco
05-27-2007, 10:23 AM
Hello Nic,

What do you means by the STAR bug fixed ?

Regards

Marco

NicD
05-27-2007, 07:56 PM
when you select a star or a runway for the arrival the CDU stops immediately. Don't install this version.


... thats what I meant :)

marco
05-28-2007, 12:50 AM
Hi Nic,

You can select a star without any problem.

Marco

Jan Pemöller
05-28-2007, 02:27 AM
Yes, most of the problems are gone !!!

STAR problem was OK with LEPA, but still exist with EDDF GED Arrival (but maybe this was my fault)
DIRECTS inside a STAR or somewhere in the route are no problems anymore

- New Take Off page
- Thrust reduction on 2. page
- NEW: Missed App Leg is displaying in ND
- everything seems fast and stable

Great work ... Thanks
Jan

ToTom
05-28-2007, 04:04 AM
Version SDU391ee and each early (and testnavdata0704(ver10))
EDDF:
ILS25L RW25L
I> GED GED .DME005 @O .CRS242 MTR .CRS242 DF070 @220/ DF071 @220/ REMBI DF011 DF012 DF013 DF014 DF015 DF016 @220/ DF026 DF025 DF024 DF023 DF022 DF021 @220/ LEDKI .CRS247 @170/ @04000

in LEGS Page it is displayed only "LEDKI".

They are disappeared: "DF070 DF071 DF011 DF012 DF013 DF014 DF015 DF016 DF026 DF025 DF024 DF023 DF022 DF021"

Also, It is not possible to choose Transitions on Approach.
( http://complex-media.pl/~tomek/screforum/cdu.pdf )
If You have the same error?

Jan Pemöller
05-28-2007, 05:49 AM
Hi Tom,

as I sad EDDF has still problems ...
Will try this afternoon other german airports!
The transitions never worked as they should since I use PM.
I always thougt cause of the data.

Regards
Jan

Bob Reed
05-28-2007, 09:02 AM
You see I am not seeing this behavior either and I am wondering if it is the navdata. I am using newer versions then I was and I have to say I can change my flight as I want once in the air.. But I fly mostly in the US. If I get a chance I will try to fly this flight you guys are saying has the problem.

Ray Proudfoot
05-28-2007, 09:14 AM
I've installed CDU391EE.ZIP this morning and I see from the readme it's advised "Nav Data version should be -10 or greater".

Does that mean that those of us who subscribe to the Navigraph service are wasting our time (and money) using the latest AIRAC updates? :roll:
And if I do use the latest what are the implications?

Not very happy. The Navigraph service has been available for some time now. Surely enough for Enrico to ensure the data works with the CDU. Or are the changes to the data massive causing a rewrite of the software?

michelmvd
05-28-2007, 09:26 AM
Hey all,
Did a lot of testflights this weekend with Cdu 391ee
Looks the N1 part is now working ok. Reduced TO / CLB is working perfectly.
What the routes concerns, I notice there is a lot of different behavior, depending which STAR or SID you take. Some of them are displayed ok, others are just a mass.
It looks that the route itself in the CDU is followed by the aircraft, but the visualisation on the ND is sometimes a problem.
When entering a route with STAR or SID it is displayed correctly in blue dashlines till confirmed, then white dashlines and even Magenta line, but only as long you don't set the altitude in the CDU pref-Page.

As Bob always has no problem with the routes, it looks to me it is some kind of a regional problem - maybe landsettings or so, as from what I learn of this forum mostly european guys are suffering. Very strange as Enrico is located in Europe too and Navigraph in Norway.

I have send again a full report, plus pictures to Enrico, hoping this will helping to resolve the problem.

B. Rgds
Michel

ToTom
05-29-2007, 01:20 AM
Hi Tom,

as I sad EDDF has still problems ...
Will try this afternoon other german airports!
The transitions never worked as they should since I use PM.
I always thougt cause of the data.

Regards
Jan
It concerns this problem all airports , which has SPECIFIC waypoints:
EDDF: DF054 DF053 DF052 (etc)
LOWW: WW871 WW896 WW895 WW819 WW818 WW817 (etc)
EDDM: DM428 DM427 DM426 DM425 DM424 DM423 DM422 (etc)

ToTom
01-11-2009, 06:59 AM
I have written in this case 2 year ago (forum and mail to PM).
Something has been changed?

We provide detail rich and fully functional flight simulation software, ideally run on a PC network using our Glass Cockpits and flight systems on dedicated PCs.
There is good joke...

Transitions on real CBT:
http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1425&d=1231670788