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Peter Dowson
02-12-2007, 10:13 AM
Hi folks,

Just thought you'd like to know that there are new interim (i.e. test)
versions of both FSUIPC (3.558) and WideFS (6.596) now available on my Support
Forum.

These are now pretty much the final interim versions before I make them into
proper (documented! ) user releases, hopefully by the end of the month.

The main new thing in WideFS is support for UDP protocol. I'm using it here
in my cockpit with 10 PCs and it seems really smooth. I don't know if you'll
find it the same, but the new way of specifying the protocol (via the
Server) on all-XP setups should make it easy for you to compare UDP against TCP
or SPX.

Feedback via my Forum, please.

Regards,

Pete

Manuel Sacramento
02-12-2007, 10:17 AM
Hi Pete:

I try to find this new protocol(UDP),for install,and I can not see him in my
windows XP!!

Any ideia to install it?

Tom Stian Bjerk
02-12-2007, 10:17 AM
If you have TCP/IP installed on your WinXP, then you also have the UDP
protocol..

Tom Stian

"Manuel Sacramento" wrote in message
news:410451.81897@wb.onvix.com...
> Hi Pete:
>
> I try to find this new protocol(UDP),for install,and I can not see him in

> my
> windows XP!!
>
> Any ideia to install it?
>

Katy Pluta
02-12-2007, 10:17 AM
If you are using XP UDP is installed, it is a transport layer for IP
like TCP is, nothing else should required for you than setting WideFS
to use UDP instead of TCP for the IP protocol...

===
All the best!
Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Flight Simulator
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

---
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Manuel Sacramento
02-12-2007, 10:17 AM
Hi Pete:

I try to find this new protocol(UDP),for install,and I can not see him in my
windows XP!!

Any ideia to install it?

Tom Stian Bjerk
02-12-2007, 10:17 AM
If you have TCP/IP installed on your WinXP, then you also have the UDP
protocol..

Tom Stian

"Manuel Sacramento" wrote in message
news:410451.81897@wb.onvix.com...
> Hi Pete:
>
> I try to find this new protocol(UDP),for install,and I can not see him in

> my
> windows XP!!
>
> Any ideia to install it?
>

Katy Pluta
02-12-2007, 10:17 AM
If you are using XP UDP is installed, it is a transport layer for IP
like TCP is, nothing else should required for you than setting WideFS
to use UDP instead of TCP for the IP protocol...

===
All the best!
Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Flight Simulator
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

---
Visit Project Magenta!
http://www.projectmagenta.com

Michel Vandaele
02-12-2007, 10:17 AM
Hello Katy,
Any ideas what the advantages of that comparing with TCP ?

B. Rgds

Michel

"Katy Pluta" wrote in message
news:410461.81897@wb.onvix.com...
> If you are using XP UDP is installed, it is a transport layer for IP
> like TCP is, nothing else should required for you than setting WideFS
> to use UDP instead of TCP for the IP protocol...
>
> ===
> All the best!
> Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Flight Simulator
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> ---
> Visit Project Magenta!
> http://www.projectmagenta.com
>

Peter Hein
02-12-2007, 10:17 AM
Hi Michel,

I´m not Katy, but did you read Pete´s detailed description in his forum?

UDP is simply faster but may be less reliable as, in comparison to TCP/IP,
UDP does not do transmission checking as TCP/IP does.

Best rgds

Peter

Katy Pluta
02-12-2007, 10:17 AM
Check on Pete's forum and his documentation? :-) UDP has less overhead
but less reliability, so it just needs to be tested, if it works on
your system: fine, if not simply switch back to TCP or IPX...

===
All the best!
Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Flight Simulator
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

---
Visit Project Magenta!
http://www.projectmagenta.com

Tom Stian Bjerk
02-12-2007, 10:18 AM
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/ip.htm#wp1375

Here is even more details about it :)

"Katy Pluta" wrote in message
news:410589.81897@wb.onvix.com...
> Check on Pete's forum and his documentation? :-) UDP has less overhead
> but less reliability, so it just needs to be tested, if it works on
> your system: fine, if not simply switch back to TCP or IPX...
>
> ===
> All the best!
> Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Flight Simulator
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> ---
> Visit Project Magenta!
> http://www.projectmagenta.com
>

Michel Vandaele
02-12-2007, 10:22 AM
Thkas a lot for info
Will check and see which is the best.
B. rgds


--
Michel VANDAELE
Member of the board FSCB
EBOS2002 Designteam
My B744 simulator project
http://users.pandora.be/michel.vandaele/sim1.htm

"Tom Stian Bjerk" wrote in message
news:410642.81897@wb.onvix.com...
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/ip.htm#wp1375
>
> Here is even more details about it :)
>
> "Katy Pluta" wrote in message
> news:410589.81897@wb.onvix.com...
>> Check on Pete's forum and his documentation? :-) UDP has less overhead
>> but less reliability, so it just needs to be tested, if it works on
>> your system: fine, if not simply switch back to TCP or IPX...
>>
>> ===
>> All the best!
>> Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Flight Simulator
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>> ---
>> Visit Project Magenta!
>> http://www.projectmagenta.com
>>
>

Melvyn Ott
02-12-2007, 10:22 AM
Pete,

A very HAPPY camper here...after installing the new FSUIPC and WideFS
files....my LAN that also uses WideView over 5 other CPU's is running SMOOTHER and
FASTER than ever!!!!

I have specified the use of UDP in the server and the clients....and while
flying through clouds...or in and around clouds....the former frame rates of
the clients just about DOUBLED themselves!!!

I don't understand your magic....but I like it. grin.

Regards,

Mel


On 4/16/2006 8:22:01 AM, Peter Dowson wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>Just thought you'd like to
>know that there are new
>interim (i.e. test) versions
>of both FSUIPC (3.558) and
>WideFS (6.596) now available
>on my Support Forum.
>
>These are now pretty much the
>final interim versions before
>I make them into proper
>(documented! ) user releases,
>hopefully by the end of the
>month.
>
>The main new thing in WideFS
>is support for UDP protocol.
>I'm using it here in my
>cockpit with 10 PCs and it
>seems really smooth. I don't
>know if you'll find it the
>same, but the new way of
>specifying the protocol (via
>the Server) on all-XP setups
>should make it easy for you to
>compare UDP against TCP or
>SPX.
>
>Feedback via my Forum, please.
>
>Regards,
>
>Pete

Peter Dowson
02-12-2007, 10:22 AM
On 4/21/2006 5:24:37 AM, Melvyn Ott wrote:
>A very HAPPY camper
>here...
>I don't understand your
>magic....but I like it. grin.

Glad it works so well for you. It certainly seems to vary a lot -- some
notice no differences.

Regards,

Pete

Melvyn Ott
02-12-2007, 10:22 AM
Pete,

I just noticed another enhancement of the seemingly....well
knowlingly....faster exchange of data between my server and the clients.

I am on a flight between Spokane WA and Seattle....just passing through a
cold frontal area....and encountering turbulence......previously....my server
view for the Captain would "rock and roll" for the horizon....and the
clients would do the same...but NOT always right in sequence....they would lag
just a bit...and it was noticeable for realism.

This morning....those horizons are right in synch....proof to me that there
was a huge improvement in the data exchange rates of WideView.

Regards,

Mel


On 4/21/2006 7:10:08 AM, Peter Dowson wrote:
>On 4/21/2006 5:24:37 AM, Melvyn Ott
>wrote:
>>A very HAPPY camper
>>here...
>>I don't understand your
>>magic....but I like it. grin.
>
>Glad it works so well for you. It
>certainly seems to vary a lot -- some
>notice no differences.
>
>Regards,
>
>Pete