About TCAS in GC

[Eddie Armaos]

Sorry, maybe i'm doing something wrong, but i don't have TCAS in my GC in
ND
display.

I run in the FS PC the Fsinn for Vatsim's multiplayer, do i need something
more?
Does anyone else have Fsinn ?


Thanks

Eddie

[Enrico Schiratti]

Hi,

I do not know what Fsinn is, but if you get TCAS with normal
FS, then it must be a setting in the Vatsim client that has
to be set.

Ciao

Enrico

"Eddie Armaos" wrote in message
news:383724.77021@wb.onvix.com...
> Sorry, maybe i'm doing something wrong, but i don't have
> TCAS in my GC in
> ND
> display.
>
> I run in the FS PC the Fsinn for Vatsim's multiplayer, do
> i need something
> more?
> Does anyone else have Fsinn ?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Eddie
>
>
>

[Thomas Richter]

Hi Eddie,
FSInn needs AiBridge, normaly it will install and activate automaticly by
installing FSInn.
In my case I got trobble with AiBridge and PM. Suddenly I lost "NetDir", no
PMSoftware could find NetDir only CDU could write to it.
Removed FSInn / AiBridge and switched back to SquawkBox 3.04. Now all is
working well, also Traffic is working.

Best Regards
Thomas Richter

[Enrico Schiratti]

> In my case I got trobble with AiBridge and PM. Suddenly I
> lost "NetDir", no
> PMSoftware could find NetDir only CDU could write to it.

How does that manifest itself? I mean, when does the NetDir
get lost?

[Thomas Richter]

Hi Enrico,
it lost direct on startup. It started with one of the GC433X-software and now
I know with latest update of FSInn.
But I think it has nothing to do with PM-software, because before I removed
FSInn / AiBridge I tried to go back to older GC, down to 428 step by step,
but NetDir was lost for GC (still there and write in from CDU).
Then I found out that FSInn automaticly starts AiBridge when FS2004 is
starting, so that AiBridge is every tim running in background without needing
(not online).
Then I closed AiBridge and in this moment GC showes the correct Data from
Netdir.

Best Regards
Thomas Richter

[Brad Heller]

Guys,

I've just started running FS.INN because I can't get Squawkbox to work, even
with help from the SB Forums. I run all the PM software and haven't had a
problem.

Enrico, the only issue I have at the moment is that I can't get the EICAS
display show in the display with the Stby's and the EICAS display by itself.
Its just disappeared for some reason? I even disabled the dimming without
any result. The GC & ND displays just work fine.

Kind Regards,
Brad Heller.

[Eddie Armaos]

I can confirm that Fsinn automatic starts a AiBridge.exe in main Fs PC. The
truth is that after Fsinn installation when Fs starts auto run also Fsinn
and Aibridge.
I tried to manually run it in GC PC, but with n o success.
I have the latest Fsinn version



With Squawkbox I don't have a problem, I can see TCAS in ND


Thanks


Eddie

[Enrico Schiratti]

> Then I closed AiBridge and in this moment GC showes the
> correct Data from
> Netdir.

Can it be that something is messing around with our offsets?

What do you get from pmFileCheck in that constellation?

[Enrico Schiratti]

> Enrico, the only issue I have at the moment is that I
> can't get the EICAS
> display show in the display with the Stby's and the EICAS
> display by itself.
> Its just disappeared for some reason? I even disabled the
> dimming without
> any result. The GC & ND displays just work fine.

I haven't observed that here, but I have a little problem
with the elecoff offset, I think. Please check with the new
GC in the latest folder, it has a new DLL.

Ciao

Enrico

[Thomas Richter]

Hi Enrico,
this file was written when I was going back step by step.
The Problems Date was 8.01.2006.
Yesterday I tried a new installation of FSInn for tests (FSInn is better than
SquawkBox), result:
All PM is working without problems, but ND and QuickMap don`t show TCAS when
online.
The different to before was that I start AiBridge, PM is allready started.
I think FSInn is working with "Long Fingers", once yesterday when I started
FSInn it shoot GoFlight-AP half away (Displays OK, Buttons dead).
Sometimes less is more, back to SquawkBox (all OK).

pmFileCheck Build 36
Opening Connections

Local Path: C:\PFD-747\PFD

Checking Computer and User Name
Local Computer Name: P4-PFD-3000
Local User Name: Administrator


FSUIPC/WideFS found!
FSUIPC Version 3.53
WideServer Version 6.51
?Possible WideServer/WideClient Version Mismatch (WideClient Version 0.00)

Flight Simulator Running
Testing Framerate
Avg / Min / Max: 30.6 / 16.8 / 37.7

OK - GC Detected
GC Build 432

FAIL - FMC Not Detected (CDU or MCDU)

FAIL - A/P NOT Detected (MCP or FCU)

Local DLL Files Found:
PFD.dll dated: 08.12.2005 19:14:00
pm.dll dated: 22.12.2005 12:00:19

Checking FS Path
OK - Reported FS Path \\P4-FS-3200\FS2004\

Trying to access FS Path
OK - Read access to FS Path
OK - Read/Write access to FS Path
OK - Read/Write access to FS Path

Wide Server reports:
92641 Connected to computer "P4-EICAS-2400" running WideClient version 6.510
(skt=12908)
92672 Connected to computer "AMD-HARDWARE" running WideClient version 6.510
(skt=12920)
92672 Connected to computer "AMD-FMC" running WideClient version 6.510
(skt=12932)
93688 Connected to computer "P4-PFD-3000" running WideClient version 6.510
(skt=12948)
670860 Connected to computer "P4-EICAS-2400" running WideClient version
6.510 (skt=12992)
1558047 Connected to computer "P4-EICAS-2400" running WideClient version
6.510 (skt=352)
2016172 Connected to computer "P4-EICAS-2400" running WideClient version
6.510 (skt=13120)
2404266 Connected to computer "P4-PFD-3000" running WideClient version 6.510
(skt=13052)
3140797 Connected to computer "AMD-PHIDGETS" running WideClient version
6.510 (skt=13028)
3500110 Connected to computer "P4-EICAS-2400" running WideClient version
6.510 (skt=13124)
3851204 Connected to computer "P4-PFD-3000" running WideClient version 6.510
(skt=372)

Looking for NETDIR from CDU

FAIL - Can't check NETDIR path, CDU/MCDU is not running
> Please run the CDU/MCDU for this test

Checking FSPLANS Path (To Load/Save FS Flightplans)
OK - Read/Write access to FSPLANS Shared Folder
10 File(s) found in FSPLANS, last date is 08.01.2006 21:28:34

Closing Everything

08.01.2006 23:06:34

Things To Do:

* Check Versions of WideClient

If you wish to, please check www.projectmagenta.com/notams.html

Best Regards
Thomas Richter

[Eddie Armaos]

So,


if FsInn handles TCAS in a different way than Squawkbox, is it possible to
ignore it and PM's GC "read" traffic data direct from FS?

Or it works like that? I think the result of traffic data is always FS, so
from
there all should read.


Thanks


Eddie Armaos

[Thomas Richter]

Hi Eddie,
yesterday, after I installed FSInn new, I made some Test-Onlineflys:
- in FS2004 (View) I could see all other Pilots
- in ND NO TCAS (GC-latest)
- in ND NO TCAS (pmRJ-latest)
- in QuickMap NO TCAS
- in FSInn-Radar TCAS OK
same result with AiBridge ON or OFF !!??

IVAO-Online-Fly (IVAP)
- all is working well.

FSInn removed and SquawkBox installed.
- all is working well.

I think somethink is missing or blocking the AiTraffic for FS-Gauges, so you
can see (View) but not see in gauges (FS).

Best Regards
Thomas Richter

[Eddie Armaos]

Hi Thomas,


i just sent a post in Fsinn's forum and i will post here the results when
have
some.


Eddie Armaos
Athens

[Eddie Armaos]

From Fsinn site, the reply :

"The only FSUIPC TCAS table write tool we provide is Aibridge. It is
maybe
autostarted if activated in the FSFDTCP.

Any add on based on MS SDK (TrafficInfo.dll) don´t need AIBridge."



So do we need AiBridge with PM's s/w ?
Enrico, is it ND Tcas based on trafficInfo.dll ?


thanks

Eddie

[Enrico Schiratti]

> Enrico, is it ND Tcas based on trafficInfo.dll ?

It is based on FSUIPC offsets.. it simply appears that some
information is not written (e.g. speed of the AI aircraft)

[MANANDISE Marc]

Hi Enrico,

In fact, what do we make to receive information from the TCAS.
Is it a special manipulation (in FSUIPC ?)we must make to activate the TCAS
on the ND ?
Many thanks for your answer

Best Regards

Marco

[Enrico Schiratti]

> In fact, what do we make to receive information from the
> TCAS.
> Is it a special manipulation (in FSUIPC ?)we must make to
> activate the TCAS
> on the ND ?
> Many thanks for your answer

None on your end, all you need to do is switch on the TCAS
on our end and if the data is correct, i.e. like the default
FS data, then it will show.

Every new version of AI data generators does this at the
beginning, I think they are just leaving out some data that
is needed.

[Enrico Schiratti]

It looks like there are problems with other software as
well.. see the TCAS thread in Peter Dowson's forum...

Ciao

Enrico

"Thomas Richter" wrote in
message news:384613.77021@wb.onvix.com...
> Hi Eddie,
> yesterday, after I installed FSInn new, I made some
> Test-Onlineflys:
> - in FS2004 (View) I could see all other Pilots
> - in ND NO TCAS (GC-latest)
> - in ND NO TCAS (pmRJ-latest)
> - in QuickMap NO TCAS
> - in FSInn-Radar TCAS OK
> same result with AiBridge ON or OFF !!??
>
> IVAO-Online-Fly (IVAP)
> - all is working well.
>
> FSInn removed and SquawkBox installed.
> - all is working well.
>
> I think somethink is missing or blocking the AiTraffic for
> FS-Gauges, so you
> can see (View) but not see in gauges (FS).
>
> Best Regards
> Thomas Richter
>

[Eddie Armaos]

Hi,


I get another reply in Fsinn forum, this may help a little what we need
or
where to look to fix the problem :

"As I said, we are not using any FSUIPC for our softwares. And you have
problems with FSUIPC based softwares. As a service only for FSUIPC
softwares
users (thanks to José), we deliver AIBridge with FSInn, to get the
FSUIPC
TCAS tables feeded. So it is clear, that you need AIBridge.

I can´t give you advise for WideFS, because I don´t use and need it.
Sb3 is
different, because it uses FSUIPC. How ever you do it, you need to feed
FSUIPC/WideFS with TCAS data from multiplayers, to get Project Magenta
to
show it.

I suggest, to contact Peter Dowson or Project Magenta for support"



So as I can understand the problem is not in Fsinn but somewhere else.
Somewhere in the route from Fsinn via Aibridge, Fsuipc, FS, Widefs to
PmND
Maybe a part of information is lost in the route.
Do I need to post it in Peter's forum ?


Eddie



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Support: Enrico Schiratti
> [mailto:Support.listmanager@news.projectmagenta.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:51 PM
> To: Recipients of 'Support' suppressed
> Subject: Re: About TCAS in GC
>
> From: "Enrico Schiratti"
>
> It looks like there are problems with other software as
> well.. see the TCAS thread in Peter Dowson's forum...
>
> Ciao

[Enrico Schiratti]

Hi Eddie,

> Do I need to post it in Peter's forum ?

Peter is away until the end of this month.

> users (thanks to José), we deliver AIBridge with FSInn, to
> get the
> FSUIPC TCAS tables feeded. So it is clear, that you need
> AIBridge.

AIBridge used to work, if I remember correctly, and there
were initial problems because not all data was being
written.

Basic problem, FSInn is not using FSUIPC... thus it needs
AIBridge to generate the tables. Problem seems to be
AIBridge either doesn't generate or doesn't get the values
needed to fill in the traffic tables as FS does it.

There is not really much I can do on my end as all I do is
receive and display. and for the proper operation I need
speed, altitude, heading on top of position data, so
something in this whole construct is not generating that
information.

Additional problems, the programmer of FSInn doesn't care
about FSUIPC (which would remove the problem with AIBridge)
and I haven't been flying online in years, and even if I did
I wouldn't be able to get data that isn't provided.

Ciao

Enrico


"Eddie Armaos" wrote in message
news:385852.77021@wb.onvix.com...
> Hi,
>
>
> I get another reply in Fsinn forum, this may help a little
> what we need
> or
> where to look to fix the problem :
>
> "As I said, we are not using any FSUIPC for our softwares.
> And you have
> problems with FSUIPC based softwares. As a service only
> for FSUIPC
> softwares
> users (thanks to José), we deliver AIBridge with FSInn, to
> get the
> FSUIPC
> TCAS tables feeded. So it is clear, that you need
> AIBridge.
>
> I can´t give you advise for WideFS, because I don´t use
> and need it.
> Sb3 is
> different, because it uses FSUIPC. How ever you do it, you
> need to feed
> FSUIPC/WideFS with TCAS data from multiplayers, to get
> Project Magenta
> to
> show it.
>
> I suggest, to contact Peter Dowson or Project Magenta for
> support"
>
>
>
> So as I can understand the problem is not in Fsinn but
> somewhere else.
> Somewhere in the route from Fsinn via Aibridge, Fsuipc,
> FS, Widefs to
> PmND
> Maybe a part of information is lost in the route.
> Do I need to post it in Peter's forum ?
>
>
> Eddie
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Support: Enrico Schiratti
>> [mailto:Support.listmanager@news.projectmagenta.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:51 PM
>> To: Recipients of 'Support' suppressed
>> Subject: Re: About TCAS in GC
>>
>> From: "Enrico Schiratti"
>>
>> It looks like there are problems with other software as
>> well.. see the TCAS thread in Peter Dowson's forum...
>>
>> Ciao
>
>

[Eddie Armaos]

Thanks Enrico,


i will try to contact with AiBridge's developer and send an email to Peter
for
later.

ciao

Eddie