FS Panel Studio Multiple Monitor Setup

[Infinity]

Anyone know how to edit panels with FS Studio and get them to display on multiple monitors. I'm tyring to have CA instruments on 1 and Engine instruments on 2. I'm using FS9. Thanks.

[skino]

With Panelstuido you can create a new Window (Panel), copy the required instruments to the new Panel, so arrange as you want and save. Then easely open the new Panel in the Simulator and pull on the other monitor. I have my own FS9 panels on 5 monitors.

My old PSS 777 Config over 3 Monitors. All Panelsconfig handmade:

Original:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/16/pss7772dmain.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/pss7772dmain.jpg/)


Skino-Style ;) :
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6338/76997002.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/76997002.jpg/)

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[jonesthesoftware]

If you can't get on with FSPanel studio try this... it's based on my LevelD 767 but the principles should be the same for your aircraft

For the instruments you want to place on your MIP monitor(s) you only need to edit the PANEL.CFG file
The window that you see by pressing “shift +2” in LevelD shows the whole left side of the MIP with all of the instruments you need plus all the bits you don’t need. Everything that is displayed is listed in the section ”Window 1” of the “panel.cfg” file shown here. This listing gives the name of each gauge, it’s size and position

[Window01]
file=B767forward.bmp
size_mm=1280, 680
position=6
visible=1
ident=12
zorder=2

gauge00=LVLD\B767main!light, 0, 0
gauge01=LVLD\B767Afds!Nav1, 535, 0
gauge02=LVLD\B767Afds!MCP, 736, 0
gauge03=LVLD\B767Afds!SMC, 824, 180
gauge04=LVLD\B767Afds!Autoland, 620, 163
gauge05=LVLD\B767Afds!MasterSwitch, 485, 37
gauge06=LVLD\B767Afds!RadarAltimeter, 561, 255
gauge07=LVLD\B767Afds!AltAlert, 722, 250
gauge08=LVLD\B767Afds!InstrSelect, 0, 398
gauge09=LVLD\B767Afds!GASwitch, 1075, 632
gauge10=LVLD\B767Afds!FOSwitch, 1105, 632
gauge11=LVLD\B767Afds!Gear, 1179, 224
gauge12=LVLD\B767Afds!Autobrakes, 769, 518
gauge13=LVLD\B767Afds!OMI, 703, 403
gauge14=LVLD\B767at!AT, 0, 0
gauge15=LVLD\B767FMC!FMS, 0, 0
gauge16=LVLD\B767FMC!XNAV, 0, 0
gauge17=LVLD\B767main!airspeedL, 92, 224, 168
gauge18=LVLD\B767main!altimeterL, 607, 245, 148
gauge19=LVLD\B767main!vsiL, 556, 406, 136
gauge20=LVLD\B767main!rmiL, 90, 404, 176
gauge21=LVLD\B767main!clockL, 547, 549, 146
gauge22=LVLD\B767ehsi!EHSI, 289, 408, 227,, CP
gauge23=LVLD\B767eadi!EADI, 291, 172, 221,, CP
gauge24=LVLD\B767eicas!EICAS, 934, 180, 225,, CP
gauge25=LVLD\B767leicas!LEICAS, 934, 409, 225,, CP
gauge26=LVLD\B767main!ecuL, 700, 601, 197
gauge27=LVLD\B767main!ENG, 767, 363
gauge28=LVLD\B767main!OILW, 790, 498, 95
gauge29=LVLD\B767main!ESW, 925, 629, 150
gauge30=LVLD\B767main!warn, 760, 239, 150
gauge31=LVLD\B767main!TRP, 1178, 168


. Make a copy of this file and rename the original as “panel.cfg.Original" for example. You can edit this file with any text editor.
Now just remove the lines that list gauges that you don’t want to display on the monitor you are using for your MIP..
This is my Window 01 for my setup. I’ve deleted the bitmap reference as you don’t need any bitmaps if you are displaying the gauges in your MIP frame. I’ve substituted the background colour of black instead.
If you compare this file to the leftmost monitor in my setup as seen in the picture below you can see how each gauge is positioned on the leftmost monitor. Coloured squares show my monitor positions.

[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1280,2000
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=6
visible=1
ident=12
zorder=2

gauge00=LVLD\B767at!AT, 0,0,10
gauge01=LVLD\B767main!airspeedL, -19,272,512,644
gauge02=LVLD\B767main!rmiL, 50,946,455,624
gauge03=LVLD\B767ehsi!EHSI, 582,991,691,812,CP
gauge04=LVLD\B767eadi!EADI, 584,122,647,620,CP

6402







I’ve used 4 monitors on my setup. The 3 on the left and centre are on 1 PC along with the FMC, as an extended windows desktop. The monitor on the right and the 2 TV’s are on the second PC using Wideview to link the PC’s via network cables and Ethernet hub.
The first PC has 2 x 1950 GTX graphics cards which have 2 monitor outputs as well as an S video out which drives the 5 inch screen on the FMC. (if the S-video is used it replaces the second video out).
The second PC has 1 graphics card with 2 outputs , one drives the FO MIP display and the 2nd output drives a Matrox TH2Go but set for 2 TV’s at 1980X1050 for each TV.( full HD)

To use the modified panel.cfg window as 1 of your MIP monitors you’ll need to press “shift +2” to show the captains MIP windows, undock the window and drag it to whichever monitor you are using for particular instruments, then drag the corner of the window to suit your monitor size, then modify the positions and sizes of the gauges in “window o1” to make them fit the cut-outs in your simulator panel. Don’t forget to “save” the flight when you have positioned your windows.
I’ve used “window 08” for my 2nd monitor for standby, alt,clock etc and “window 00” for my upper and lower Eicas on the 3rd monitor and of course I drag the existing modified FMC window onto my Open Cockpits FMC. The window for that is set by my graphics card at 800x600 as a TV output.
I use these particular windows as it’s possible to have all of these windows open in FSX simultaneously.
Here’s my configs for those windows.

[Window00]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=767,1366
position=0
visible=1
ident=11
zorder=0

gauge00=LVLD\B767eicas!EICAS, 6,10,744,606,CP
gauge01=LVLD\B767leicas!LEICAS, 6,739,747,606
=====================================================================
[Window08]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1280
position=6
visible=0
ident=40
zorder=2

gauge00=LVLD\B767main!stby, 596,-18,496,1336
gauge01=LVLD\B767main!altimeterL, 179,175,379,373
gauge02=LVLD\B767main!clockL, -5,949,388,347
gauge03=LVLD\B767main!vsiL, 11,593,354,323
gauge04=LVLD\B767Afds!Autoland, 203,-35,337,182
gauge05=LVLD\B767Afds!RadarAltimeter, -1,100,124,412
========================================================================
NB don’t let any windows overlap from 1 monitor to another as FSX will grind to a halt almost.

If you zoom the photo you can see that the ALT, VSI and clock are sharper than the standby instruments and that is because I’ve edited the bitmaps for the ALT, VSI and clock to make them sharper because the original LevelD bitmaps are designed for their application and are not suited for the size of my MIP. I’ll do all of the bitmaps eventually to suit my sim.
hope this helps
regards
geoff
The only problem I have is when FSX starts up the windows are correctly remembered in the correct monitors but are distorted until I just drag each window slightly then it jumps to the correct sizing. I’m still working on that.

[Infinity]

jonesthesoftware...I will continue with trial and error and will give your advice a try if unsucceessful. Thank you. Do you mind sharing how you edited the bitmaps to make them sharper. I found that part interesting.



With Panelstuido you can create a new Window (Panel), copy the required instruments to the new Panel, so arrange as you want and save. Then easely open the new Panel in the Simulator and pull on the other monitor.

I appreciate your help, but this answer is very vague and sounds more like an advertisement. Could you elaborate please.

[skino]

Sorry please, I thought you know the basics of "Panel Studio".

Open Panelstudio an load your Panel. Go to "Window" "Add New Window"
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1329/80995484.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/80995484.jpg/)

Type a name for the new Panel, klick "Visible on Startup" an "No Background Bitmap"
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/6996/58940343.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/58940343.jpg/)

Hit "Ok" und you have a new Panel called "StandBy"
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4144/82550158.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/82550158.jpg/)

Go Back on Mainpanel ("Window" -> "Mainpanel") an select the Gauge(s) you want
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9661/30286270.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/30286270.jpg/)

copy or cut the select Gauges, go to the new "StandBy"-Panel and past
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8677/23128224.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/23128224.jpg/)

If you can´t see the gauges play a little bit with the Zoom-Buttons on the Menu :!:
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4925/52802469.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/52802469.jpg/)

You can move, resize, add or remove the Gauges. Play with the Program ;)

Save your work. The orignal Panel.cfg ist saved als Panel_Backup_XXX.cfg.

In FS9 (or FSX) load your Aircraft and open the new "StandBy"-Panel wit "View" -> "Instrumentenpanel". Undock the "StandBy" panel and move it. Thats all.

Panel Studio Youtube-Tutorial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfvdfDmHG6M

[Infinity]

skino, thanks. Is there a way to get two edited panels on seperate monitors??? I wasn't sure if loading two different panels for the same aircraft was possible or how to do this. Sounds like undock and drag/expand (a single panel) is the end result. I should have been more specific in my original post. I am still experimenting.

[manhattan]

If you can't get on with FSPanel studio try this... it's based on my LevelD 767 but the principles should be the same for your aircraft

For the instruments you want to place on your MIP monitor(s) you only need to edit the PANEL.CFG file
The window that you see by pressing “shift +2” in LevelD shows the whole left side of the MIP with all of the instruments you need plus all the bits you don’t need. Everything that is displayed is listed in the section ”Window 1” of the “panel.cfg” file shown here. This listing gives the name of each gauge, it’s size and position

[Window01]
file=B767forward.bmp
size_mm=1280, 680
position=6
visible=1
ident=12
zorder=2

gauge00=LVLD\B767main!light, 0, 0
gauge01=LVLD\B767Afds!Nav1, 535, 0
gauge02=LVLD\B767Afds!MCP, 736, 0
gauge03=LVLD\B767Afds!SMC, 824, 180
gauge04=LVLD\B767Afds!Autoland, 620, 163
gauge05=LVLD\B767Afds!MasterSwitch, 485, 37
gauge06=LVLD\B767Afds!RadarAltimeter, 561, 255
gauge07=LVLD\B767Afds!AltAlert, 722, 250
gauge08=LVLD\B767Afds!InstrSelect, 0, 398
gauge09=LVLD\B767Afds!GASwitch, 1075, 632
gauge10=LVLD\B767Afds!FOSwitch, 1105, 632
gauge11=LVLD\B767Afds!Gear, 1179, 224
gauge12=LVLD\B767Afds!Autobrakes, 769, 518
gauge13=LVLD\B767Afds!OMI, 703, 403
gauge14=LVLD\B767at!AT, 0, 0
gauge15=LVLD\B767FMC!FMS, 0, 0
gauge16=LVLD\B767FMC!XNAV, 0, 0
gauge17=LVLD\B767main!airspeedL, 92, 224, 168
gauge18=LVLD\B767main!altimeterL, 607, 245, 148
gauge19=LVLD\B767main!vsiL, 556, 406, 136
gauge20=LVLD\B767main!rmiL, 90, 404, 176
gauge21=LVLD\B767main!clockL, 547, 549, 146
gauge22=LVLD\B767ehsi!EHSI, 289, 408, 227,, CP
gauge23=LVLD\B767eadi!EADI, 291, 172, 221,, CP
gauge24=LVLD\B767eicas!EICAS, 934, 180, 225,, CP
gauge25=LVLD\B767leicas!LEICAS, 934, 409, 225,, CP
gauge26=LVLD\B767main!ecuL, 700, 601, 197
gauge27=LVLD\B767main!ENG, 767, 363
gauge28=LVLD\B767main!OILW, 790, 498, 95
gauge29=LVLD\B767main!ESW, 925, 629, 150
gauge30=LVLD\B767main!warn, 760, 239, 150
gauge31=LVLD\B767main!TRP, 1178, 168


. Make a copy of this file and rename the original as “panel.cfg.Original" for example. You can edit this file with any text editor.
Now just remove the lines that list gauges that you don’t want to display on the monitor you are using for your MIP..
This is my Window 01 for my setup. I’ve deleted the bitmap reference as you don’t need any bitmaps if you are displaying the gauges in your MIP frame. I’ve substituted the background colour of black instead.
If you compare this file to the leftmost monitor in my setup as seen in the picture below you can see how each gauge is positioned on the leftmost monitor. Coloured squares show my monitor positions.

[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1280,2000
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=6
visible=1
ident=12
zorder=2

gauge00=LVLD\B767at!AT, 0,0,10
gauge01=LVLD\B767main!airspeedL, -19,272,512,644
gauge02=LVLD\B767main!rmiL, 50,946,455,624
gauge03=LVLD\B767ehsi!EHSI, 582,991,691,812,CP
gauge04=LVLD\B767eadi!EADI, 584,122,647,620,CP

6402







I’ve used 4 monitors on my setup. The 3 on the left and centre are on 1 PC along with the FMC, as an extended windows desktop. The monitor on the right and the 2 TV’s are on the second PC using Wideview to link the PC’s via network cables and Ethernet hub.
The first PC has 2 x 1950 GTX graphics cards which have 2 monitor outputs as well as an S video out which drives the 5 inch screen on the FMC. (if the S-video is used it replaces the second video out).
The second PC has 1 graphics card with 2 outputs , one drives the FO MIP display and the 2nd output drives a Matrox TH2Go but set for 2 TV’s at 1980X1050 for each TV.( full HD)

To use the modified panel.cfg window as 1 of your MIP monitors you’ll need to press “shift +2” to show the captains MIP windows, undock the window and drag it to whichever monitor you are using for particular instruments, then drag the corner of the window to suit your monitor size, then modify the positions and sizes of the gauges in “window o1” to make them fit the cut-outs in your simulator panel. Don’t forget to “save” the flight when you have positioned your windows.
I’ve used “window 08” for my 2nd monitor for standby, alt,clock etc and “window 00” for my upper and lower Eicas on the 3rd monitor and of course I drag the existing modified FMC window onto my Open Cockpits FMC. The window for that is set by my graphics card at 800x600 as a TV output.
I use these particular windows as it’s possible to have all of these windows open in FSX simultaneously.
Here’s my configs for those windows.

[Window00]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=767,1366
position=0
visible=1
ident=11
zorder=0

gauge00=LVLD\B767eicas!EICAS, 6,10,744,606,CP
gauge01=LVLD\B767leicas!LEICAS, 6,739,747,606
=====================================================================
[Window08]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1280
position=6
visible=0
ident=40
zorder=2

gauge00=LVLD\B767main!stby, 596,-18,496,1336
gauge01=LVLD\B767main!altimeterL, 179,175,379,373
gauge02=LVLD\B767main!clockL, -5,949,388,347
gauge03=LVLD\B767main!vsiL, 11,593,354,323
gauge04=LVLD\B767Afds!Autoland, 203,-35,337,182
gauge05=LVLD\B767Afds!RadarAltimeter, -1,100,124,412
========================================================================
NB don’t let any windows overlap from 1 monitor to another as FSX will grind to a halt almost.

If you zoom the photo you can see that the ALT, VSI and clock are sharper than the standby instruments and that is because I’ve edited the bitmaps for the ALT, VSI and clock to make them sharper because the original LevelD bitmaps are designed for their application and are not suited for the size of my MIP. I’ll do all of the bitmaps eventually to suit my sim.
hope this helps
regards
geoff
The only problem I have is when FSX starts up the windows are correctly remembered in the correct monitors but are distorted until I just drag each window slightly then it jumps to the correct sizing. I’m still working on that.

Hello.

The tutorial on FS Panel Studio is great (who needs Project Magenta?). You do mention however the problem of distortion on startup? I expect to display stand by instruments using a mask over the monitor at that section and I would hate for the analog gauges to slip out of sight!
Have you looked at this problem at all? You seem to be an expert with FSPS.

Thanks,

TONY Plymouth UK.

PS luv your dog!

[jonesthesoftware]

Hi Tony
you must be psychic, I was trying to solve this problem yesterday but with no luck. I save my flight with the undocked windows in the correct size and correct monitor but when I open the flight again the undocked windows are displayed on the correct monitors but wrong size. As soon as I drag a corner of the windows even by as little as 1 pixel the window immediately jumps to the correct size. Weird or what?
Does anyone know how to fix this?
regards
geoff

[Matti V]

i no understand how i make my cocpit project new panel screen size have 340 x272 mm and need main panel here, i think adding wood were have gauges holes at top on screen.
and second same sice screen adding radio and GPS but how make real size ? now i adding gauge who havw 250x250 (whit fspanel editor)and have real screen about 60mm diameter, ??? i no understand how make good size panel?
i have win7, fs2004,1 wide screen to outside screen at shelf and 2piece 17" little monitor to gauges in table.
switches and trimm have under table front ovn panel real switch and potentiometers,(whit leo bodnar card)
computer have use onboard geforce and 1 geforce 8600 were can take out 2 monitor, yes have 3 monitor now working good,
but need 2 monitor more ? how
and front at table acryl/wood sheet were have all gauges holes. what size must be ? and howe make good size because i adding gauge (whit fspanel) no have same size what i write gauges diameter real have wery small size why?

if make 80mm diameter real screen at monitor have about 30mm ?

and what size must be have all gauges (sixback+vor+rpm)one 17"monitor ?
same second monitor what size have radio stack at monitor good ?


and what is Real gauges at cessna 172 diameter ?
what all use have real front/main panel at monitor?
how can adding more monitor (need outside screen 2 monitor more)
i no can make network working whit win7 and my old xp computer, win7 say alltime ipv6 error or somethink ??? i no understand network anythink. but try adding new home net many many time no can make, iv6 etc,error alltime. and some help i read at net but my computer no have some button what need use can make net ????
i no know anythink all net.
newermind first i need gauges to one monitor and panel top thats. wide screen monitor have see out and gauges tto 17" and radio+GPS second 17" what more ????

sorry my english no good i tell all menytime and no good :)

[Matti V]

what size must make backround BMP to fspanel new 17" monitor and adding gauges there what size diameter ?
and how make 2 panel, 1 monitor make gauges and 2 monitor make GPS,Radio stack and how start all same place then start fs9 ?
because if make wood sheet on monitor no can use mouse ,no see were move if have wood at panel.
need open all gauges and radios same place ewerytime then open fs9, i no understand how ?
and what happend if open other aircarft, open gauges same place thats too ?

[PH-JKL]

Hi Matti,

I'm building a Beech Baron 58, with 2 monitors for instruments and radio, GPS and engine instruments and a TH2G for outside view.

I used a 1024x720 size and resize it once undocked in FS9.
I placed a cardboard mask over the monitors to guide me placing the gauges.

Save your flight in FS9 and set it for 'deafault flight', the next time you start-up it should be at the same place.

Greetings.

[Matti V]

Thanks, now gauges open to monitor good alltime same place :)
but one proplem yet, how size ?
what size have real cessna and how can adding all gauges little 17" monitor have good real panel at simu?

and were i found photo pictures HDG and other knops good guality ? all panel picture i try print out to paper no have good guality text :(
next i adding rotary encoders to panel cover then have monitor gauges ready and good size.
8576
new yoke come later i make thats now ovn yoke.chy produckt no have good. and no found ewerytime start fs9 all setting right ?
fs9 joystick disablet and i use fsuip setting, but no have setting right ewerytime then open fs9 :(

[PH-JKL]

Nice set up so far!

I don't know the size of the real gauges, but I made my own gauges a little smaller then the real thing so they fit on my screen.
Do you mean that you can't find the settings for your yoke in FSUIPC, or doesn't it work at all?

[Matti V]

I mean ch produkt yoke lose all setting sometime, and if setting have ok, ch no working good, plastic tube sticky, mean no move alltime good, no fly right, left/right move no have same alltime, many, i made ovn yoke now, hope have better. move good and good guality potentiometer.
i have be disappointed ch produckt yoke guality lot :( no working REAL feel and good newer :(



fsuip found setting but no alltime keep setting too right.
i has disabled fs9 joystick and use only fsuip,have better but no keep setting alltime too, fs9 setting same no keep setting ?
now yesteday fly has flaps setting lose :( up has down and down has down sometime but up sometime ???
flaps have in bu0368 leo bodnar card and working good longtime,now no ???

[PH-JKL]

Have you tried to remove all setting is fs9? Go to settings menu in FS9 and disable all joystick and button settings in FS. Sometimes FSUIPC drops your yoke because of that.
I used to have a CH product yoke and know what you mean, I use a Pro flight yoke from saitek now and it works fine in FS9 with FSUIPC.

[Matti V]

ok,thanks lot all peoples.
i must try setting make new someday then have time next fly.

can fsuip make trimm wheels whit encoder or have only potentiometer trimm ?
i think i have 10 rotary encoder and think make some at trimm wheel too . but no sure have fsuip setting thats ?
i think made servo or steppermotor feedback later at to trimm.same whit yoke made feedback but think how. maybe arduino link2fs can made. must read more and learn how.
but thats later future, first need made gauge panel full ready whit encoder. :)

leo bodnar card have many empty place yet need think what adding there :)

switches have all and trimm wheel and flaps now :)
strottle have saitek and working anytime good.

THanks lot all who help me :)
Have anybody ready code to arduino link2fs radio panel, and what 7-segment 8 digit use?
someday future want made radio too. many think and want, thats is fly sim hobby :) alltime need more :D
com1+2,nav1+2,ap, etc,etc :D and make lot itself if can. thats good hobby :D

but next week made yoke drive wheel at plywood ready. tube and box have ready and need wheel.
i adding cheap ebay linear bearing and linear rail to box F/B and tube 1" have big 6205 bearing L/R.

[PH-JKL]

Hi Matti

You can use a 10 rev potmeter, just hook up the outer two wires to 'ground' and '5V' and put the middle one on 'X', 'Y' or whaterver axis is free on your Bodnar card.
Programming is easy in FSUIPC, as you can set it as trim wheel.

[Matti V]

thanks, i must6 orden somewere 2-3 pot :)
now have normal potmeter and working ok,but maybe no best. use you 10K or 100K ? wich have better ?

[PH-JKL]

I use a 10K, but I don't know the difference between a 10 or 100K, maybe someone else can tell it.