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aweiss09
11-15-2010, 06:10 PM
Hi there,

does anybody out there know, what functions of the PMDG 737 for FS9 are fully supported by the Opencockpits ATC module - and what not? As I have read somewhere not all add ons will work 100% with (http://www.mutleyshangar.com/reviews/jack/737atc/737atc.htm).

The guys at Opencockpits unfortunately don't know either ...

Thanks a lot,

Alex

Nick1150
11-16-2010, 02:15 AM
Hi there,

does anybody out there know, what functions of the PMDG 737 for FS9 are fully supported by the Opencockpits ATC module - and what not? As I have read somewhere not all add ons will work 100% with (http://www.mutleyshangar.com/reviews/jack/737atc/737atc.htm).

The guys at Opencockpits unfortunately don't know either ...

Thanks a lot,

Alex
I fly PMDG 737-800 (no other software) and I had all opencockpits pedestal panels for a month, till last week that I sold them to get the CPflight modules.

Opencockpits modules are ok, CPflight modules are excelent. Depending on your budget you can choose what you will get. I choosed opencockpits, but at the end the cost was more after changing to CP...

The ATC works fine, except that it has not a dual concentric rotary switch, but for me it was not a problem. Took me 2 seconds to understand how it works and had no problem with it. What I had a problem though, was that the ATC switch could not trigger PMDG TA and TA/RA so even if you put TA/RA on the opencockpits ATC, you have to click with your mouse to the PMDG ATC panel to get the TCAS on, and that was a problem for me. After all home cockpit building is about minimizing clicks right ? CPflight ATC together with FSlabs driver does changes to TA/RA as it is supposed to do and also has a dual concentric rotary switch as the real 737 does.

Generally I would say that CPflight offers a better and of course more expensive solution in my personal opinion... they say what you pay is what you get... and IMHO in this case the above exists 100%.

My personal opinion only of course...

Hope I helped,

:)

aweiss09
11-16-2010, 02:26 AM
Thanks Nick, understood so far but some questions remain:

1. Do I need CPFlight's MCP737Pro or -EL as a base to get all functions working in the future (like Pedestal, Master Caution, etc.)?
2. Does the FlightSimLabs driver, which I do need to interface the PMDG 737, support other CPFlight's hardware without having the CPFlight's MCP737PRO or -EL installed.
3. How sould I proceed, assumed I decide to follow the CPFlight's track as you suggested? Right no I own Opencockpits MCP, Opencockpits EFIS, Opencockpits USB- and Mastercard.

Thanks a lot for explaining,

Alex

Nick1150
11-16-2010, 03:11 AM
Thanks Nick, understood so far but some questions remain:

1. Do I need CPFlight's MCP737Pro or -EL as a base to get all functions working in the future (like Pedestal, Master Caution, etc.)?

YES YOU DO NEED THE MCP (ANY CPFLIGHT MCP) TO CONNECT IT WITH THE REST MODULES. AS YOU SAY IT IS THE BASE ;)


2. Does the FlightSimLabs driver, which I do need to interface the PMDG 737, support other CPFlight's hardware without having the CPFlight's MCP737PRO or -EL installed.

YES FSLABS DRIVER INTERFACES ALL CPFLIGHT MODULES (MCP, PEDESTAL, FIRE PANEL, ETC...) BUT AS SAID YOU NEED ANY CPFLIGHT MCP FIRST AS A BASE

3. How sould I proceed, assumed I decide to follow the CPFlight's track as you suggested? Right no I own Opencockpits MCP, Opencockpits EFIS, Opencockpits USB- and Mastercard.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAVE FOLLOWED THE OPENCOCKPITS WAY TILL NOW. IF I WAS IN YOUR PLACE, I WOULD PROBABLY CHOOSE OPENCOCKPITS RADIOS THEN




Sorry for the capital letters but the coloring button does not operate...

:)

bagarie
11-16-2010, 06:24 AM
Hi Captains,

I use the ATC module by OC with my PMDG based Cockpit with no problem.
ABout the selector for TA/RA I programmed by SIOC a keyboard emulation to send via FSUIPC the command to PMDG. It's more easy than you think.

All the Modules by OC are completly programmable via SIOC. So you can assign any command to any switches on the module itself.
If you want I can send you the little SCRIPT to do that. Obviosly you need SIOC program to do that.

Regards
Arnaldo

aweiss09
11-16-2010, 06:51 AM
Hi Arnaldo,

thats really good news. What else ATC /Transponder functions did you get to work via SIOC/FSUIPC?

Getting the script I would really appreciate - maybe you can post it to the public as well?
I guess there are some disappointed PMDG pilots in their "open cockpits" out there missing this functions indeed.

Thanks a lot,

Alex

bagarie
11-16-2010, 08:57 AM
HI There,

As you know all the Plug and Play modules by OC may be used in 2 different ways:
1) use the program itself for standard use
2) use SIOC to interface any button, switches and Display of the module to doing what you need.

In my case I use both: The program to display, command, the XPND code I need and SIOC to command TA/RA on PMDG by Rotary switch on ATC module.
I do that assigning by SIOC a keyboard emulation to FSUIPC, and by this command a Key stroke to activate TA/RA and STBY.(also working for IVAO and VATSIM for ONline flyng)

SO we need: 1)A little SIOC script for Keyboard Emulation and a little modifyng tto Fsuipc.ini to make a double kay assignement.

Sorry guys but it's just little complicate to explain in english but i'm tryng.

I'll be back with the Script and modifications needed to fsuipc.ini file

Regards
Arnaldo

oal331
11-17-2010, 06:04 AM
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I'll be back with the Script and modifications needed to fsuipc.ini file

Regards
Arnaldo

Hello Arnaldo,

i also have OC Radios, so it will be a very nice to have your script and tutorial for your method.

Thanks

Eddie

bagarie
11-17-2010, 06:39 AM
Hi Eddie,

Normally you don't need any Script to use your Radio OC. You can use the IOCModules program, because there are no special assignement to do with PMDG 737. You need just a workaround to use the TARA function of ATC module with PMDG 737.

Regards
Arnaldo













Bye
Arnaldo

oal331
11-17-2010, 06:47 AM
Hi Eddie,

Normally you don't need any Script to use your Radio OC. You can use the IOCModules program, because there are no special assignement to do with PMDG 737. You need just a workaround to use the TARA function of ATC module with PMDG 737.

Regards
Arnaldo


Yes i know about, i already use them more than 1 year,
I need your walkaround for some other functions :-)

Thanks Eddie

Simon FSC
11-17-2010, 11:27 AM
Hi Eddie,

Normally you don't need any Script to use your Radio OC. You can use the IOCModules program, because there are no special assignement to do with PMDG 737. You need just a workaround to use the TARA function of ATC module with PMDG 737.

Regards
Arnaldo













Bye
Arnaldo

Ciao Arnaldo,
nice to see you here ;)

senseimatty
02-03-2011, 08:53 AM
Hi!
I've found a way in FSUIPC to assign ATC key combinations in PMDG transponder mode selector:
Pressing "I" the selector increases (from STDBY to ALT to XPNDR to TA to TA/RA)
Pressing "SHIFT+I" the selector decreases (viceversa)

I did it simply creating a Mouse Macro in FSUIPC.
The combination works well, you can assign the functions to joystick buttons for example.

I need a script.. or better.. I used the same part of script of the EFIS mode selector (updating inputs and variable), but the module does not wake up when I launch SIOC. The status is correctly connected, but in the console nothing happens switching the selector.
Can someone work out a script and a SIOC.ini to assign these functions to the ATC selector? :D