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dnoize
02-25-2010, 04:08 AM
I promised to keep you all updated on our first motion sim project, so here are 2 video's we made recently.


http://www.youtube.com/user/engravity#p/a/u/1/aVzwChycsVI

http://www.youtube.com/user/engravity#p/a/u/0/DEY6ry9YNE4


The Platform will accomodate a projection dome, full 737 shell, instructors cabin and a balcony.

Over the next few weeks we will be placing the shell and instructors cabin..


The sim is being custom build for Simsensation (www.simsensation.nl).

Simsensation will be using this sim for both training professionals but also for renting to the casual simmer. More information on simsensation on their website: www.simsensation.nl

Simsensation is located at Lelystad Airport, right next to the Aviodrome Museum, location of the yearly FSweekend Event.

The 6 DOF platform is manufactured by MOOG.

Moog is one of the market leaders in the motion industries and its platforms are being used in level-D sims from CAE and FlightSafety International.

More information on MOOG and their motion solutions can be found here:
http://www.moog.com/markets/aircraft/aerospace-simulation-test/flight-simulation/

some more pictures:

The shell to be used:

http://www.simsensation.com/images/SIMS_shell_001.gif


unloading the platform chassis at our facilities:

http://www.simsensation.com/images/onderstel-lossen.gif
http://www.simsensation.com/images/onderstel-plaatsen.gif

vybhav
02-25-2010, 04:15 AM
Stef,

Many thanks for the update. The project looks awesome and thanks for sharining.

Hopefully we can see it in FSWeekend in November 2010.

dnoize
03-20-2010, 05:59 PM
short update: shell and instructor cabin fitted.

Next step: fitting MIP and controls.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5T5e6jQo7A


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqUSD3dALMg&NR=1

Matt Olieman
03-20-2010, 06:49 PM
Quite impressive. Need that for my cockpit..... Don't I wish :) :) :) Thanks for the video Stef :)

Joe Cygan
03-20-2010, 07:45 PM
Stef,
Great direction your going, don't look back!

Joe

capetonian
03-21-2010, 04:07 AM
Darn, . .that looks sweet, ..... but I have a question, how will you do the visuals later. I mean, if you're in a motion simulator the horizon will be fixed and you will move in relation to the horizon, just like in a real plane. When using a flight simulator that is taken care of by the software and you are 'tilted' as it were and the horizon is fixed.

I have often wondered how that's done.

dnoize
03-22-2010, 05:58 AM
@ Matt & Joe: Thanks guys !
@ Capetonian: The entire shell will be covered with a projection dome. Projected horizon will be relative to shell position.

Besides, unlike what people commonly believe, the motion platform of pro sims do not move all the time and they certainly dont simulate the aircrafts physical position in the simulation. Motion is only used to simulate g-forces.

Most budget and semi pro motion platforms just read the aircrafts position in flightsimulator en put the platform in the same position.

In a level-D sim this does not happen. For example in a aircraft banking to the left, the platform of a level-d sim will bank to the right ! (picture yourself driving a fast car in a left turn....you are being pushed to the right).

MOOG the supplier of our platform also supplies CAE and Flightsafety International with the platforms for their level-D sims. Our platform will be using similar software using physical data to simulate g-forces and not just bank the platform accordingly to the aircrafts position in FS.

Stef

capetonian
03-27-2010, 03:20 AM
Hoi Stef,

Thanks for the update and the explanation. I cannot wait to see that thing when it's finished! What an awesome 'toy'.

dnoize
05-07-2010, 11:16 AM
Another update on the motion project....just a few pictures.


Shell placed on the motion platform, instructors cabin is finished. The sim will take 2 pilots in the shell and 2 people in the instructor cabin. Started building the structure for the projection dome.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei1.jpg


The back of the instructorscabin with the balcony. The balcony will have air stairs.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei2.jpg


Looking in from the back with the 2 Ipeco's + J-rails just fitted. Interiors are partially fitted.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei3.jpg



A view from the front. Sorry for the bad quality, taken with my phone.
ICS interface system and gauges have been fitted. The ICS interface is modular and eliminates the need for wiring switches, annunciators, etc. Very failsafe this way and the modular system is perfect for maintenance.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei4.jpg


Captains side. Ipeco seat with j-rails fitted. This is the newer electrically adjustable model, an option on the 737. It can be adjusted manually and electrically. Same seats are used on the 747/400.
Interiors are partially fitted.


http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei5.jpg


First Officers Office:

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei6.jpg


Close up on the interior trim

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei7.jpg
http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei8.jpg
http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei9.jpg


Panels, glareshield and glarewings fitted.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei10.jpg



Next on the list:

Finishing Interiors
fitting screens
testing interfaces and computers
fitting airconditioning
finishing instructors station
TESTFLYING !

Stef

capetonian
05-07-2010, 11:24 AM
Wow Stef , .. that thing is looking so awesome ..... DAMN!!!

Next time Gert visits I'm going to hide in his car boot!

dnoize
05-08-2010, 02:45 AM
Thanks !

You will be able to see/fly it on the next FSweekend which is in 6 months allready.

It will be stationed in a hangar on Lelystad Airport, right next to the aviodrome museum !

Stef

capetonian
05-08-2010, 07:32 AM
Thanks !

You will be able to see/fly it on the next FSweekend which is in 6 months allready.

It will be stationed in a hangar on Lelystad Airport, right next to the aviodrome museum !

Stef

That does it .... I'm printing this out as proof you said that :)
Seriously, looking forward to seeing it in real life.

Jan Pemöller
05-24-2010, 10:49 AM
Great Project! Will definitely visit FS Weekend this year! Can we ask for the costs?

dnoize
05-25-2010, 04:18 AM
Sure you can.
I depends on the exact wishes of the customer. This is not aimed at the home market. A similar setup to this you have to think of approximately 250K to 300K in euro's.

The Platform alone costs more than 100.000 euro's from MOOG (http://www.moog.com/products/motion-systems/).

If there is anything in particular you'd like to know about the system, just ask.


Stef

dnoize
05-25-2010, 07:17 AM
OK, another small update:

The instructors cabin is spray painted and waiting for its logo:

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei11.jpg

Last work being done under the hood. When all is done, the windows will be fitted and the dome will be closed. There is an accesdoor to the dome for maintenance.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei12.jpg

Part of the instructors cabin. 2 seats will be fitted + the instructors station (touchscreens). Its quite spacey for 2 persons.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei14.jpg

view from the captains seat. Screens, gauges and ics system fitted. Only the MCP PRO needs to be placed.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei15.jpg



Some close up shots. We are detail freaks, so all kinds of screws are fitted. Diferent sizes, some countersunk, etc. Not all functional, other than wanting to replicate the exact look of the real panels.


http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei15.jpg

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei16.jpg

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei17.jpg




Close up of the overhauled IPECO's with new J-rails:


http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei18.jpg



Plug and play pedestal. All modules functional, including the mic selector panel, the firepanel, cargo fire panel, radar panel, stab trim panel and even the lighting panel and the door/trim panel.
More news about the new plug and play modules soon.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei19.jpg

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei20.jpg



Uhmmmm dont know what this is.....you didnt see it ;-)

Looks like a ...uhmmm.... other ICS thingy: No more wiring, looks sooo CLEAN !

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei21.jpg



Its not finished yet, knobs need to be fitted, dark filters for the displays, annunciators need to be fitted and the aluminium caps on the honeywell switches need to be replaced by white caps (yes the real locking honeywells are fitted).
When that is done it will be fitted in the sim. Plug and play, just one usb plug and a power line.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei22.jpg

functional valve gauge:
http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei23.jpg
http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei24.jpg

Sean Nixon
05-27-2010, 03:06 PM
Hey Stef, thanks for the update. It's looking excellent! I've soooo many questions I want to ask... I'll start with, where did the sidewalls come from?

flatlandpilot
05-27-2010, 04:26 PM
Wow, compliments for this extreme nice setup.
thanks for all the photo's

dnoize
05-28-2010, 04:49 AM
Hey Stef, thanks for the update. It's looking excellent! I've soooo many questions I want to ask... I'll start with, where did the sidewalls come from?

Hi Sean,

Ask anything you want.

The interior trim is available from the Aviation Megastore:
http://www.aviationmegastore.com/737-interior-liners-captain-sidewall-7380003a-005-luchtvaart-hobby-shop-7380003a-005-b737ng-cockpit/product/?shopid=LM4bfe5a23a2dcb64abd9cec1583&action=prodinfo&parent_id=278&art=92061

Stef

dnoize
06-12-2010, 09:15 PM
getting closer to the final updates for this project.....



Interiors almost finished. only need to add the ceiling trim and the aft overhead. You can just see the 2 seats in the instructors cabin.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei25.jpg





A shot of a part of the instructors cabin. The seats are pneumatic and MUCH more comfortable than the IPECO's at half the price.

Instructorstation is operated by a single touch screen. The floodlighting in the instructorstation is blue and dimmable.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei26.jpg



ceiling trim fitted.....only the aft overhead remains to be fitted.


http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei27.jpg



A view to the sim from the instructors cabin.
http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei28.jpg





The ICS plug and play AFT overhead. All annunciators, switches and displays are functional. Gauge has to be fitted. IRS display and keypad are functional.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei29.jpg




Packing her up in bubble wrap for transport. She is being transported to the final location and we will finish the sim there.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei30.jpg




Our facilities. The sim is about as high as the overhead door when the platform is TOTALLY lowered to its lowest position.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei31.jpg



There she goes.
http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei32.jpg




A tight fit !
http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei33.jpg





Lifting the sim with a crane to be put on a special transport.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei34.jpg




Transport is being taken care of by Royal SAAN, a dutch company specialized in aircraft transportation and salvage.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei35.jpg



The final location. A hangar on Lelystad Airport in the netherlands.

http://members.casema.nl/pago/simmei36.jpg


A nice video impression of the transport made by Alex Alberto:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmaC3lnwPcs&feature=youtube_gdata




Stef

Matt Olieman
06-12-2010, 11:00 PM
Very, very nice Stef, congratulations to all at Fly Engravity!!!

Fabulous!!!!

Matt Olieman

vybhav
06-13-2010, 12:45 AM
Congrats Team Flyengravity...great job.

Regards

Wendy
06-13-2010, 04:22 AM
Great work in such a short time.

Congratulations, very nice.


Wendy

choffmann
06-13-2010, 07:02 AM
This thread certainly documents, that flight deck building is not merely a handcraft, but an art. Fantastic, fantastic, Stef!

Chris

Sean Nixon
06-20-2010, 04:31 AM
Hi Sean,

Ask anything you want.

The interior trim is available from the Aviation Megastore:
http://www.aviationmegastore.com/737-interior-liners-captain-sidewall-7380003a-005-luchtvaart-hobby-shop-7380003a-005-b737ng-cockpit/product/?shopid=LM4bfe5a23a2dcb64abd9cec1583&action=prodinfo&parent_id=278&art=92061

Stef

Thanks Stef.

I notice the Aviation Megastore lists Engravity's window frame. You really should show all your products in your own shop! :p

Is that window frame used on the sim in the photographs? Are the window liners made to fit your window frame? Have you used all the liners listed in that sim?

Thanks again.

Sean

dnoize
06-21-2010, 05:57 PM
Thanks Stef.

I notice the Aviation Megastore lists Engravity's window frame. You really should show all your products in your own shop! :p

The aviation megastore does a great job at selling our products ;-)
But you are right. Many of our products are not listed in our own webshop.


Is that window frame used on the sim in the photographs?

Nope. The sim uses a fiber shell. however the windows of the fiber shell are reinforced with aluminium frames that are based on our window frames.

The fiber shell is an exact copy of the real shell (including all rivets ;-) ) and the window frames are exact copies of the real windows, taken from one of our real shells in our workshop.

you can see the window frames in another topic here though...

uhmmm here.....this was for a static trainer we made:
http://members.casema.nl/pago/sweatbox.jpg


Are the window liners made to fit your window frame?

the window frames have the actual dimensions of the real windows, same for the window liners (and the shell we used for the sim) so yes they will fit dimension wise.
But keep in mind that no actual provisions have been made for fitting the liners. You will have to make brackets and such yourself.


Have you used all the liners listed in that sim?

Yup
except for the ceiling trim, that was custom made, together with the trim from shell to instructorsstation.


Stef

Sean Nixon
06-21-2010, 11:18 PM
As ever, a very informative post, that picture speaks a thousand words.

Thanks Stef.

dodiano
06-22-2010, 12:15 AM
WOW!! This is amazing great work guys!!!

Regards,

Roberto

dnoize
06-27-2010, 09:23 AM
Some last shots of the finished sim in the hangar at Simsensation.

Next weekend we will be finetuning the software and the platform with MOOG and Flightdecksoftware engineers.

In july it should be operational.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/jjvandieren/Simsensation/11062010101.jpg

http://www.simsensation.nl/images/IMG_0048.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/jjvandieren/Simsensation/IMG_0090.jpg

http://www.simsensation.nl/images/IMG_0101.jpg

http://www.simsensation.nl/images/IMG_0095.jpg

http://www.simsensation.nl/images/IMG_0094.jpg

http://www.simsensation.nl/images/IMG_0092.jpg

http://www.simsensation.nl/images/IMG_0085.jpg

one of the 2 happy new owners:

http://www.simsensation.nl/images/IMG_0049.jpg

Sean Nixon
06-27-2010, 09:30 AM
One word...

Beautiful

Matt Olieman
06-27-2010, 10:32 AM
WOW, I got the goose bumps .....

HEY STEF, do you think I can borrow that for a few days.....? :) :) :) I promise to return it...... :)

Really FANTASTIC, Robert, you're a genius!!!!

Matt Olieman

dnoize
08-19-2010, 05:45 PM
small news item on a local tv station:

from 4:30


http://www.omroepflevoland.nl/uitzending-gemist/video-player?p=nieuws&d=201008171730


Stef

Sean Nixon
08-21-2010, 06:17 AM
It looked brilliant Stef. Thanks for the link.

dnoize
08-24-2010, 03:46 PM
and heres another one, since the sim is fully operational now, customers start posting clips on youtube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSIUvyubOwk

You can tell i'm proud of our work ;-)

Stef

dnoize
09-08-2010, 10:34 AM
nice promo posted on youtube by simsensation:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOWYjfzq0nY

Sean Nixon
09-08-2010, 12:41 PM
Nice Stef, looking forward to sticking my head in at Lelystad this year.

BTW, is Robert on holiday, awaiting an email reply from him?

Sean

Melnato
09-16-2010, 05:46 AM
Stef your inbox is full! :)

Nat

dnoize
09-18-2010, 05:40 PM
@ sean: missed your message. Have you been in touch with robert meanwhile ? if not contact me on support@

@ nat: emptied the inbox. sorry bout that.

Stef