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Stijn
03-24-2009, 10:57 AM
Hey guys,
Next week I'm going to Seppe airfield in the Netherlands and do a flight in a 737-NG sim. But this is not just for fun. It's a test to see is I have flying skills to do a pilotschool. Are there any 737 simmers or pilots who have tips for me.
My a320 cockpit project is going very well by the way!!! I will soon upload some pictures.
(sorry for my bad english)
Stijn
Michael Carter
03-24-2009, 11:18 AM
That's exciting news. I know how I'd feel if I had that opportunity.
Have you already sat for the interview?
Sorry I can't help with the 737 tips. Too bad it's not the 727.
Stijn
03-24-2009, 11:53 AM
No, no interview yet but it's a pre selection. So it's not official. But I really like to go to that academy because it's only a few miles a way from my home.
But want to impress them so I have a better chance when it is official.
My cousin how is doing a pilot academy now said I need to do things like for example: flying 5 minutes on 2000ft and 250kts and meanwhile make a turn. Is this difficult? Tryed with the pmdg 737 but a saitek yoke isn't like the real thing:p
Stijn
Michael Carter
03-24-2009, 12:05 PM
It's not difficult if you are used to flying the plane. It can be quite a juggling act if you aren't.
Depending upon the bank angle they want you to establish, after rolling into the turn and approaching the angle they want, start feeding in a little up elevator and watch your speed. You may have to feed in a little power as well.
Try not to trim in the turn but hold it instead. You'll just have to retrim when you roll out. When you do roll out, remember to release the back pressure or it will start climbing on you. Reduce your power too if you fed in any.
This is easy stuff to practice in the simulator and every student pilot learns these excercises. Good luck on your ride.
Stijn
03-24-2009, 12:08 PM
Thanks michael,
That's the stuff I want to hear.
Stijn
ran56
03-24-2009, 12:26 PM
Also, If you need cockpit familiarizing, PMDG is very good at it.
ELAL been using PMDG 73NG for several year now,
as a pre simulator training for new recruit pilots and
pilots transferring from non glass AC to 73NG.
Hand flying the PMDG will give you the basic feel to hand
fly it.
Good luck :)
airbus319
03-24-2009, 12:27 PM
The 737 can be a pain to hold altitude if your not trimmed correctly, generally the pitch can be quite sensitive.
Best advice is switch on the fpv on the efis as it will assist you in maintaining the correct attitude and then correct with small thrust inputs. Dont constantly trim just set it and let the sim settle.
and remember dont apply too much back-pressure when in the turn or you'll end up climbing before you know it.
And finally enjoy lol
best regards
David
Stijn
03-24-2009, 12:29 PM
Thanks,
It's a shame i have a lot of homework right now but will practice a lot this week!!!
Stijn
Jackpilot
03-24-2009, 12:59 PM
Preselection on an Airliner sim !!!
A bit like testing a Formula one to check if you can enroll for your Drivers licence Exam.
I understand your excitement and wish you all the best anyway....
My 2c: no one with experience expects you to perform like a pro, just get a feel of the machine and fly it as gently as you can, minimal adjustments, one at a time, and always let it react before the next input.
Enjoy!
Stijn
03-24-2009, 01:04 PM
Yeah a bit strange it's in a 737 but so far i know that's their only sim. But that makes it so special.
and thanks for your tips
Stijn
luk737
03-24-2009, 01:14 PM
I have gone through same testing, but with a german airline. They will just use the sim for VERY BASIC manouvers. Such as alt hold climbs and decends. Also they might do some time orientation excercises such as fly heading 300 for 30 seconds then climb 2000 feet after another min then turn right 340 and keep that heading. all without a clock. they test your motor skills such as multi tasking etc. you wont need to know any of the systems itself as you are a beginner. Set up fs and do some basic turns at 30 Deg and 10 and 20. and pratice some basic climbs. also speed is important. but these are all very basic things that mostly anyone can do.. the question will be how well you do them. We were also set up on a pulse monitor to see how we react in the stress situation.
All the best. and if you have any question about the 737 dont hesitate to ask.
luke
dnoize
03-24-2009, 04:46 PM
Hey guys,
Next week I'm going to Seppe airfield in the Netherlands and do a flight in a 737-NG sim. But this is not just for fun. It's a test to see is I have flying skills to do a pilotschool. Are there any 737 simmers or pilots who have tips for me.
My a320 cockpit project is going very well by the way!!! I will soon upload some pictures.
(sorry for my bad english)
Stijn
Stijn,
Is that the setup from Seppe Airservice/Merlin aviation ?
Nice fixed base setup.
They do alot of these preselection tests.
Say hi to Willem from me if he is the instructor.
Stef
aviaparts
03-24-2009, 06:15 PM
I visited the Seppe 737 last friday as we flew over there on a cross-country flight.
Great setup, you will enjoy it !
Goldmember
03-24-2009, 06:23 PM
See if you can hop by at Brugges air college in Belgium before your interview. It's not a certified sim but it is very suitable for your preparation. Many pilots (-to be) train there for their type rating. Cheap also: € 25 per hour including instruction. I've been there myself as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCKLdthBDFA
dodiano
03-25-2009, 01:20 AM
Hey dude,
Hope it help... Before I got a job flying the bus I used to spend a lot in Flight simming... Not much has changed LOL just the fact that now I get to play with a real one...
The thing is I had a chance to go to Continental training center in Houston thanks to a Friend of mine and get to spend a lot of time in their sims... Loved the 737-500 and the NG.
I have to say it was my first time in a sim and flying a Jet... I had like 800 flight hours at that time probably (On C-152's)... But if you can fly on flight sim you will have o problem at all, things Like make a nice approach as well as turns climbs and level offs.. During an approach Fly slow... The slowest speed possible try shooting an approach fast you just won't cut it...
Remember Big Jets the thing is FLy Attitude ... 737 If I recall correctly have a level off pitch of 5 degrees pitch up please correct me if I am wrong... Well take a good look at that pitch when you are level off that pitch is your reference... Next your IVSI that will also help you to mantain altitude watch teh speed and flying manually you won't need big thrust changes or settings...
During your turns rememeber start your turn by setting the bank then pull the Yoke and don't be afraid of using the Trim... If the speed drops a bit you might want to release a bit the Yoke on the turn or apply a bit of power...
Remember Power on those Big Jets is just a bit to attain the speed don't put a lot cause the attitide of the plane when putting on more power is to raise your nose up... Or Climb and that can happen easily...
Show them Confidence and skills Practice Turns, climbs of 1000 up and down on your sim and also Radial Intercepting, even an ILS remeber if the Glideslope goes down ease the power back mantin pitch till you get the Glideslope again... If it goes up add more power just a notch wait for it and then get back to the thrust setting... Normal V/S for an ILS 700 feet a min that should do it...
Localizer 5 degrees correction the most... The closer you get to the Runway or the beam the more sensitive it will be so don't correct for that much...
If they get you to land the thing I guess it will have a Radio Altimeter so listen to the calls when it tells you 20 gently pull the Thrust levers Back and gently raise the nose for the Flare and remember to use your rudder pedals for the center... Again it is a plane like any other...
Wish you good luck don;t get nervous just enjoy the free ride in a sim...
Take care,
Roberto
Stijn
03-25-2009, 10:59 AM
Thanks for the reactions and tips guys!!!
I will say hi to willem for you stef
(I always bin a great fan of your cockpit !!! )
And in a few weeks i'm free for school so maybe i do a flight with a friend in brussel. Thanks for the tip!!!! really cheap.
I let you guys know what I made out of it.
Stijn
Stijn
03-28-2009, 02:51 PM
Hey,
Well today was sim day. It went very very very good. Had to do some climbs and decents and turnings. My score was good/perfect. The pilots who gave me instructions said I was really good. Men this feels good pilots who saying I have flying skills. So thank you for the tips guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again one step closer to my dream.
Thanks
Stijn