View Full Version : FLYengravity launches new desktop kits

01-23-2009, 02:21 PM

Engravity proudly presents the Performance line DESKTOP MIP. The new 100% size scale Desktop MIP is part of our performance line range and highly detailed. By combining our PRO-version and regular performance line mip, we have created an ultra realistic desktop version of the well known 737NG.

Some key features:

*complete aluminium base structure
*5 mm high quality top panels with curved edges
*PRO line Glare wings included
*Aluminium windowframes with smoke grey filters
*Aluminium bezels for standby gauges
*injection molded annunciators
*100% size scale
*available as three modules ( captain, center and F/O module)
*easy assembly
*compatible with CP-flight MCP and EFIS modules and Flight illusion gauges

The Performance line Desktop MIP is available in three modules, a captain side, center section and first officer module.

The Desktop MIP can be upgraded with our EPB- backlight panels which are used in our PRO-version.


prices; (excl. VAT)

Captain panel kit € 469,-

Center panel kit € 429,-

F/O panel kit € 469,-

To celabrate the introduction of the new Desktop MIP, only during January and February a special 25 % discount is given on the 737 Landing gear lever.


some more close ups:.

3 seperate sections, glarewings/shield are included.
Full aluminium construction (stand, backpanels, all bezels)




Aluminium bezels for PFD/ND and standby gauges.


Aluminium thumbscrews on the bezels:


some more details:







Trevor Hale
01-23-2009, 02:24 PM

Great Products and Great service.

Thanks Stef.


Joe Cygan
01-23-2009, 02:46 PM
Awesome, absolutely awesome!!!

01-25-2009, 04:16 PM
Thanks guys !

Forgot to add that people can also upgrade to our internally lit panels from our Performance PRO line: panels with one internal pcb, only need to connect a 12V line.

So if people want to backlite the panels themselves this can be done easily, but if they want to save the work, they can upgrade to backit panels at a later stage.

will post pictures after the weekend.




01-30-2009, 05:21 PM
a picture of the upgrade kit with the internally backlit panels i mentioned above:

All panels have PCB based backlighting.

Easy panel backlighting requires a 12V power adapter ( not included)

Panels are fully compatibe with the desktop panel kits



Trevor Hale
01-30-2009, 07:14 PM
Same as Project Magenta. Expensive but worth it.

I built my own panels and was quite happy with them. Until You get one of these in your hands you never notice the difference. Once you have one of these, you will never want anything else.


02-04-2009, 06:42 AM
Lovely kit, but just sooooo expensive!

Depends on the definition of expensive, so i beg to differ.

As far as i know there is only one other vendor offering desktop kits, and ours are more complete, more detailed AND MUCH cheaper.

Take a look at all the details like the thumbscrews, aluminium bezels for pfd/nd and standby gauges, the highly detailed glare wings that nobody offers this detailed, and then decide if its worth the money.

I dont think its possible to sell them any cheaper....unless we are giving them away ;-)



02-04-2009, 08:12 AM
Thats true they are very detailed!

But i recon you make a killing on these!

uhm....yes...you ...uhm...are right...

we are all millionaires.... ;-)

and thats because we are such nice guys that nobody wants US to pay any bills....
so those nice people who bend and set all aluminium panels for us do this all for free....

and then the even nicer guys at the powder coaters do powdercoating absolutely free too...

luckily we got the vacuum form for moulding the glare wings from boeing themselves...for free.....

The professionally done paint work has been done for free by the painter too...well ...thats not entirely true...i bought him a beer ;-)

we dont have to pay for all the laser machines, the cnc....our production facility is in the open, so we dont have to pay for buildings, etc.

I woke up one morning and had all the designs in my head...just like that...we dont employ and entire team, they do all the work voluntairily....since here in holland we dont have to pay for our bills in the supermarket and dont have mortgages....

so yes...uhm....you are right....we make a killing out of these.....

Prices are EXCLUDING VAT too,

so actually we make 1300 euro's for the combination of the 3 kits (ex VAT, because most of our customers are outside europe...btw...we dont keep VAT in our pockets, it goes to the government...but im sure you know that)...

so yes.....we are all millionaires...us, FDS, simkits, flightillusion, sismo, cockpit sonic and even the non profit Open cockpit guys, allllllllll millionaires....and allllllll making a killing here....

you'd think that atleast they would give you the backlight kit for free,

you are right...since it costs us nothing to make them...i'm sorry...i'll have the sales department change it right away ;-)

let me guess you dont even get landing gear?


no screens?

no....im sorry...we couldnt find anyone that wants to give us the screens for free. ;-)

pay on top for delivery etc?

Shipping is handled and calculated by UPS, i will ask them if they do it for free :-)

So if i understand right you want to pay....uhmmm....lets say....half ?....
600 euros ?
landing gear
all electronics/interfaces
knobs and switches

uhmmmm.....ok....i'll see what i can do ....;-)

This worlds gone mad!

Now theres something you said i couldnt agree more on.....

i rest my case.....

good thing you live in a free world and nobody forces you to buy anything from anyone....

And there is allways this community (including myself) with all the hints and tips given to do things yourself...good luck on your build



02-04-2009, 08:52 AM

You may rightfully find that some items are too expensive
It does not mean that they are for other people.
We are not debating about personal means, but about the fact that you are accusing a vendor of overpricing his products...on what grounds? Are you ready and able to substantiate it?
And in any case, this is not the purpose of this Forum.

02-04-2009, 09:02 AM
uhm....yes...you ...uhm...are right...

we are all millionaires.... ;-)

and thats because we are such nice guys that nobody wants US to pay any bills....


And all this time I thought you & all the other vendors had to pay for all supplies and manufacturing costs. If GM, Chrysler, Ford & all other car manufacturers could get a similar deal, I bet the global economic situation would greatly improve :D


Trevor Hale
02-04-2009, 09:28 AM
I must agree with Jack and Stef on this Alex. If you yourself have not ever produced something like this, then how can you substantiate what is too expensive and what is not.

Please keep your hat on, and we would prefer that you not directly attack a vendor on this forum, especially one that helps to support our site (Financially) and yes.. you heard me right, We don't get this forum for Free...


02-04-2009, 09:34 AM
and yes.. you heard me right, We don't get this forum for Free...


Just ask Stef...he knows how to get free things :-)


02-04-2009, 09:35 AM
But i recon you make a killing on these!

This worlds gone mad!

I will do you a deal Alex. Even though I am building a 767 I PROMISE that I will buy a 737 MIP from you if you can produce it for LESS than the Fly Engravity one.

Until you can I suggest you stop complaining about how much Fly Engravity and Flight Illusion products cost.

This is not a cheap hobby, its ruddy expensive.


Trevor Hale
02-04-2009, 09:36 AM
LMAO.. Thanks buddy, maybe I will have to look into that :)

Trevor Hale
02-04-2009, 09:37 AM
I just stand up for what i believe in, ive been a tough bullet from day one!


Alex, if you can produce Engravity Quality for 1/2 the price and include the Gear Standby Inst, and the Screens for that..

Your going to be a millionaire.

02-04-2009, 09:51 AM
Well, i say no more, no more!

Happy Sim-Building!



02-04-2009, 01:35 PM
I am on the floor laughing my *** off LOL FREE everything is FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE! hahahaha too funny my old friend, you always make me laugh. Great product Stef and Im glad its not free cause then Id be wondering whats wrong with it :)


02-04-2009, 04:59 PM
Thanks guys.....on behalf of all vendors.....;-)



02-04-2009, 11:06 PM

I wish you were at IFC Denver in 2006 so I could meet you. I had the wonderful opportunity to meet Robert and his lovely wife. I had a chance to see your products and touch them. In my opinion you don’t ask enough for them. If you have never seen or touched one of the Engravity products you can’t believe the detail Robert and his staff put into this hobby. These really are professional grade products that the hobbyist can own.

I tried talking Robert into building 777 panels but he is dedicated to one airframe at a time. For all you 737 builders you’re lucky to have Engravity.

Efe Cem Elci
02-05-2009, 03:58 AM
Saving up... :)

That was 600 Euros screens incl. landing gear, electronics, knobs and switches and shipping, right Stef? ;)