A few problems with rudder pedals, FSUIPC, BU0836

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Hi there, firstly hope u all had a good xmas and a good new year, so lets get the 2009 questions rolling! lol

Ok, so last night i finnished the first phase of my project, i have my panel up and running, i have my switch pannel, throttle quadrant, flaps and yoke all housed into my MCP for my C182, everything exept the yoke is wired to Leo Bodnars BU0836 everything works brilliantly to my amazement, all throttle levers works, all switches work, flaps work, so im amazed that a begginer like me can produce something like this, but when it come to assigning toggle switches on FS2004 to my actual physical switches on the board, i can assign and select every switch but for some reason PITOT HEAT wont toggle it will toggle ON and ON only, ive tried all possible pitot heat commands, ive tested the switch in control panel and it works fine but pitot heat just wont work it will only turn on, and it wont toggle like all the switches, is there something im doing wrong?

Secondly my gameport ch rudder pedals which i use with a usb adapter works fine, but the rudder pedals are so sensitive, how do i change the sensitivity, because settings on FS2004 doesnt seems to change much, and i dont know if i should change settings for rudder pedals on FSUIPC or on FS2004?

Push the left pedal you go right, push the right pedal you go left? yeah?

but when i push the pedals left or right the plane sure does go left and right but its out of control and i cant seem to fly in a straight line just by making small adjustments because the pedals are so sensitive?

Does anyone have any ideas or settings i can use?

Cheers for the help, and i will post pics of my project so far!

[Michael Carter]

The first idea that strikes me is to reverse your rudder pedal command. To go left, you push the left pedal, to go right, push the right pedal.

Second, what sort of toggle switch are you using for the pitot heat? Electrically speaking.

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Hi, im just using a simple push switch (non latching) SPST.

Reverse tick box.....(why didnt i think of that?)

But how do you control the sensitivity? on my pedals i just have simple left and right, but i dont understand how to find good settings for the pedals, i dont understand what it means by null zones etc? what does a high null zone setting do compared to a low null zone etc?

Cheers michael for all your help...

[Michael Carter]

How much you have to push before the rudder starts.

Try deleting the assingment in FSUIPC and use FS only with reduced sensitivity and a wider null zone.


Or try FSUIPC only. You can't have an axis assigned to two different programs. They'll play havoc with one another fighting for control of the axis.

I don't know what to tell you about the pitot heat switch. Have you tried a toggle? I never have seen a pushbutton in a 182 except on the radio panel.

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Cheers for the reply!

Hi there, your right about the push button / toggle thing, there are no push buttons on the the 182 and they only use toggle switches, but i had about 20 of these really nice push buttons doing nothing sitting in my bits and bobs box and thought that they would make a nice alternative! and work brill.

As for the pedals i have a play about with the settings and the null zone and ive made them really good now thanks to your help!

Im sorry that all my questions are real basic but i really am a newby to sim building.

But im getting there pal !

Cheers michael, you saved the day.....again!

Alex

[Trevor Hale]

Hi Alex, Just make sure that you do not have the peddles assigned in flightsim and FSUIPC.

Only have them assigned in one of the places. I suggest fsuipc, but thats just my opinion.

Trev

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Thanks for the advice!

I think i will go for FSUIPC for settings rather than FS controls.

You just get a little more control.

Thanks!

Alex


AP08

[AndyT]

I just went thru this with my pedals again.
Make sure you erase all settings in FS and only use FSUIPC to set your hardware.

The beacon and pitot can only be correctly assigned through FSUIPC, and it can be a button or a switch.

[Michael Carter]

And then double check the FS hasn't automatically re-assigned them. It's happened before.

[ak49er]

Whilst everybody is fresh thinking on assignments, I have a question. A while ago I bought two saitek throttle quadrants and made a base,bolted them together. I then took one of the 4 lever coupler handle that came with each and cut it so it would couple two levers toghether. The units come with three levers each, so bolted together and coupled, lever one is speed brake, levers two and three are port engine, levers four and five are starboard engine and lever six is flaps. I only assigned one each of the coupled levers to each engine so as not to have double axis inputs for one function. Assigning all in FSUIPC, and addings detents for reverse, flaps and speed barke worked famously. The TQ was installed on a Windows 2000 SP4 machine. I took the assembly home and used it on my Windows XP machine and again it worked great. Heck with XP I can unplug it and re-plug it and it remembers all settings. However I brought it back out to work and plugged them in and now it only recognizes one lever of each unit, so after resetting parameters in FSUIPC I can get just the seperate engines to work but now have no axis for spoilers and flaps. Once again I brought it home and it worked as reported on the XP machine. Now, I am starting to think it is a Win 2000 issue. I have unistalled, reinstalled the drivers, used the saitek programming software, and then completely deleted (seems to not make a diff.)the saitek program. I have manually delted my FS9.cfg file and tried the contorl-shift trick at startup to no avail. I have triple checked the FS assignments page and completely reset the FSUIPC settings. I theorize that this is some sort of registry issue within windows but I am stumoed on how to fix it. Captains?

[AndyT]

It is a Win 2000 issue. I've dealt with this one before. Win 2K has a problem with USB getting mixed up with Gameport settings. It is not you. As far as I know, there is no fix for it. You just have to find a different way to use hardware in 2K.

EDIT:
You might try changing the port settings in 2K on for the Gameport and USB and see if that does any good for you. Its been quite sometime since I dealt with this one. I think I just went to XP to solve it.

[ak49er]

Andy, thank -you, what settings would I change reagrding the USB and Gameport?

[AndyT]

Go into System Properties and disable the gameport.
Then try and see if that fixed it.
If not, then go into system properties, device manager and open the Gameport device. Change the resource address to all zeros.
Also, check in the BIOS to see if you can disable it there. That way Windows simply will ignore it. (hopefully)

[ak49er]

Thanks Andy, will give it a try.....