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xdefiantx
05-06-2008, 02:13 AM
Hi all,

I'm new on the forum and was just wondering if anyone has built or has attempted to build something similar to this http://www.glass-cockpit.org/

If anyone has any info on the process to build this or something similiar I would be very interested. I currently fly a Cessna 206 with the g1000 cockpit and would like to build my own sim to help reduce costs practicing IFR etc...

Thanks,
xdefiantx

QF6228
05-06-2008, 02:17 AM
Hi, Your link you posted is not working.

Damien

xdefiantx
05-06-2008, 02:35 AM
Weird.. it was working earlier... I have found something similar.. http://www.flypfc.com/G1000mfd.html

Hopefully that other link comes back online again soon.

aviaparts
05-06-2008, 04:37 PM
Hi,

Yes I am building a Garmin 1000 at this time.
Depending on how realistic you want to go you can build it complete hardware or use touchscreens.

AndyT
05-06-2008, 05:01 PM
Yes, you can build one of those. What is the cost of the first one you linked to?

EDIT:
I think they are just offering the software and not the hardware. Free Open Source.

xdefiantx
05-07-2008, 12:46 AM
I'm not sure on the cost of the one on the site in German.. But would preferably like to build something like it.. E.g.. Hardware based with a backend into Microsoft FS to get the airport database and outside world visuals to pipe through to a data projector I have.

AndyT
05-07-2008, 01:13 AM
It can be done.
What do you have to start with?

xdefiantx
05-07-2008, 01:16 AM
FS X .. Computer powerful enough to run it.. I don't have any other hardware to connect any USB or keybord inputs to the PC.

What would be the best setup to get all the required outputs from a hardware based g1000 panel to do something usefull in FS ?

AndyT
05-07-2008, 01:24 AM
You will need a screen, and a bunch of PC Mount buttons and a couple of encoders. Then you will need to build them all into a frame and hook it up to a USB input card. I highly reccomend Leo Bodnar's card for this.

http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836X/

When you get all that, let us know and we can begin to walk you through the design process for your new panel. Also, I suggest you get this software, its free and is made for panel design.

http://www.frontpanelexpress.com/index.php?id=3

This will be enough to get you started.

xdefiantx
05-07-2008, 01:38 AM
Thanks AndyT. Ill have a play about with the panel designer and also get some actual measurements from the plane that I fly and base my designs off that.

Cheers,

xdefiantx

Tim
05-07-2008, 09:13 PM
I can recommend a few items that I personally use:

http://www.goflightinc.com/order/index.php for throttle, comm/nav, autopilot, landing gear/flaps/trim

http://www.simpilot.com/avsim.htm for AFCS III yoke



Items I do not have but may interest you:

http://www.mindstarprods.com/aviation/index.html Garmin G1000 software

http://www.piengineering.com/MonitorMask/monitormask.php G1000 Monitor Mask still in development

Prof Bill
05-08-2008, 06:29 AM
Hi Andy,
I hope you can make some sense of this lot!!

I have lots of other photographs.
I am in the middle of documenting the G1000 but have been temporarly overtaken by some other events but will complete it soon.
Incidently Bill Stack has written an excellent manual on the operation of the FSX G1000 that is well worth purchasing!

Dave Cunliff in Texas and Leo Bodnar in the UK are the two people who really made all this possible with their technical expertise, exrtraordinary help and collaboration.
Many thanks to them both!

I have now a completed PFD and MFD that are both driven by the FSX G1000 assignments support software and they really work well.

Bill.


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Hi,
I have built a G1000 MFD and PFD and I am sure if you follow Andy Ts advice you will be successful if you do not wish to modify a small monitor surround!

The advantage of using the monitor enclosure is that you end up with a self contained instrument that is easly reproducible with minimal cabling and wires.

Bill.

N242AM
11-17-2008, 09:13 PM
Any updates to this thread?

Would someone know the physical dimensions of a G1000 PFD?

Overall bezel height and width.

Screen height and width. Assuming a 12 inch diagonal display.

Width of top, bottom and both sides of the bezel.

Can someone post a few pictures of your completed G1000 with monitor/screen installed?

AndyT
11-17-2008, 09:28 PM
The screen is actually a 10.4 inch which you can get here: http://www.tftlcdpanels.com/10.4%20inch%20LCD/10_4_XGA_LCD_X_Bri/sunlight_readable_10,4_XGA_LCD.htm

Now that is a brand new Aviation grade screen so the price will reflect that.

You could look around online and find one used or not aviation grade and save some money if you like.

Prof Bill,
Your picture links did not come out. All I get is a very small corner of a picture. All in .gif format. Can you post .jpg's? Or send them to me via mail?
Thanks!

N242AM
11-17-2008, 09:35 PM
I'm shooting for the Cessan Mustang's which are 12 inch for the PFDs and 15 inch for the MFD, but any measurement will do right now.

Yes, those are expensive displays. The 15 inch is simple to source but even the 12 inch is a difficult find at an inexpensive price.

AndyT
11-17-2008, 09:53 PM
First off, look for a deeply discounted 15" LCD monitor. Just what you need. And you can find all of these on ebay.

You're looking for replacement notebook screens in the sizes you need.

Michael Carter
11-17-2008, 10:09 PM
The 15 inch is simple to source but even the 12 inch is a difficult find at an inexpensive price.


Tell me about it! :sad:

AndyT
11-17-2008, 10:26 PM
Here's one at $35.
http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-760-series-LCD-Assy-12-1-active-TFT_W0QQitemZ370100346002QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item370100346002&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-760-series-LCD-Assy-12-1-active-TFT_W0QQitemZ370100346002QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item370100346002&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

Michael Carter
11-17-2008, 10:31 PM
I can't tell from looking at it if it's a widescreen.

I'm going to write the guy and ask and also ask what else I'll need to use it as a stand alone monitor rather than replacing a laptop screen.

It looks as though the inverter is included.

N242AM
11-17-2008, 10:38 PM
That is a good point! Is it a complete working monitor or just an lcd "screen".

N242AM
11-19-2008, 09:19 AM
Any updates to this thread?

Would someone know the physical dimensions of a G1000 PFD?

Overall bezel height and width.

Screen height and width. Assuming a 12 inch diagonal display.

Width of top, bottom and both sides of the bezel.

Can someone post a few pictures of your completed G1000 with monitor/screen installed?


I was able to find a few pieces of information in a Garmin G1000 Manual.

10.4 inch diagonal display:

Overall height and width with bezel: 7.70" high x 11.80" wide.

Using a bit of math I was able to determine the screen viewing area with a 4:3 screen.

3 (screen height) 4 (screen width) 5 (screen diagonal) ratio numbers.


To find screen height with a 12" diagonal: 3 divided by 5 times the diagonal.

3/5 x 12 = 7.2" screen view height


To find screen width: 4 divided by 5 times the diagonal.

4/5 x 12 = 9.6" screen view width.

So, a 12" diagonal lcd has a screen display area of 7.2" h X 9.6" w.

Still could use some number on the actual G1000 bezel measurements.