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visualchaosfx
03-21-2008, 01:34 PM
I don't know if this would be the correct area for posting this but essentially it is a cockpit building project........ except its in 3D Space.
I've decided to undertake a personal project of modeling the cockpit interior of the 747-400 and I started with the overhead panel:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/overhead_7.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/overhead_6.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/overhead_5.jpg
Basically, I've been using reference image of the PMDG 747 for this model but a user on another message board forwarded me a diagram of the overhead panel which has some swtiches and buttons that are not found on the PMDG's version of the overhead panel so those will be added later on tonite. These images are what was so far completed as of last night.
Hope you guys like.
Very Nice. Looking fwd to seeing more of your interior come together.
As for the the switches, each airline has its own option for systems that it can add or not have which can change the overhead panel which is why the PMDG model may be slightly different than some other overheads you may see on airliners.net.
Gary
visualchaosfx
03-21-2008, 11:42 PM
Ah ok. I thought there was just one layout for all of the aircrafts.
Here some updates:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/overhead_9.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/overhead_8.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/overhead_12.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/overhead_11.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/overhead_10.jpg
phil744
03-22-2008, 08:24 AM
Very very very nice! so im not the only one doing this;)
If you want i have a load of 3D models like knobs, anunciators and korrys that i have for the 744 measured from there real life parts i can send you if you like.
What cad system are you using?
Its quite funny, i have the mip and pedistal panel nearlly done, the only thing yet to do is the overhead:p ohh and throttle quad:(
Well done.
P.s. how the **** did you get them to appear back lighted? is it texture overlay?
visualchaosfx
03-24-2008, 12:42 PM
Very very very nice! so im not the only one doing this;)
If you want i have a load of 3D models like knobs, anunciators and korrys that i have for the 744 measured from there real life parts i can send you if you like.
What cad system are you using?
Its quite funny, i have the mip and pedistal panel nearlly done, the only thing yet to do is the overhead:p ohh and throttle quad:(
Well done.
P.s. how the **** did you get them to appear back lighted? is it texture overlay?
Hi and thank you for the comments. The software I'm using is 3D Studio Max 8. Its a 3D animation and visual effects creation software. Thats cool that you are doing a project like this as well. I thought I was the only one doing this as well lol. For the backlighting they are basically splines that I just assigned a color to in the materials dialog box and I can change the colors faster that way. The splines are basically overlayed ontop of the overhead panel. See exapmles at the bottom of this post. I've tried texturing the traditional way using UVmap texturing but cannot get the scaling correct and I find it harder for me to do it that way. So this model will not have any type of bitmap texturing applied to it. As far as your models go, sure I'd like to use them as long as they are compatible with 3D Studio Max. I did an ok job on some of the knobs that I modeled but they could look better lol.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/spline_1.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/visualchaosfx/spline_2.jpg
Trevor Hale
03-24-2008, 12:56 PM
Man, if only we could press print on that and have a "STAR TREK" Replicator create one..
Nice job!
phil744
03-24-2008, 01:55 PM
Ahhhhh, thats how you did it, on mine i basically hollowed the panels out and the text overlay basically cut through the panels and on the rendering options i put a light source under the panel to have them shine through, but when i export the artwork to the engraver or router it screwed things up a bit, so now i just cut into the panel by 0.15mm and paint them.
If you let me know what file formats your cad system will accept (.IGES, .STP etc....) i will export them and send a few bits to you.
Here is what mine looks like at the moment, i really need to continue and do the 767 aswell!!!
Oh, by the way, i know i have the wrong display bezels in there, i quite like the 777 type displays but they dont fit..
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/madmini1/21.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/madmini1/16.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/madmini1/3-1.jpg
Trevor Hale
03-24-2008, 02:02 PM
OMG!!!
Amazing.. Simply Amazing. Makes you feel like you could almost reach out and touch them.
Nice Job Both of you!
visualchaosfx
03-24-2008, 06:42 PM
WOW!! Those are awesome!! Are you using AutoCad?
Looks like I can import .IGES files, Legacy Autocad(DWG), DXF. Are you using diagrams for these modeling sessions or are you just using photo references? These just looks so awesome!!! Great job!
Thanks for the comments Trevor.
phil744
03-24-2008, 07:46 PM
WOW!! Those are awesome!! Are you using AutoCad?
Looks like I can import .IGES files, Legacy Autocad(DWG), DXF. Are you using diagrams for these modeling sessions or are you just using photo references? These just looks so awesome!!! Great job!
Thanks for the comments Trevor.
Ok, i will send you some things as IGES format tommorow when im at work;) keep in mind you will lose the color and any textures ive used. basically i have a shed load of real parts common to the 744, measuring those together with a few diagrams, photos and imagination im slowly getting there, yeah there are still a few things wrong, the rudder trim knob is well out but once you have everything together you can judge by eye to see if everything is correct, best thing i do if find a decent picture on the net, then pan the 3D design to match that of the photo including lighting conditions and lense type then compare the two, if somthing looks different then you know you have messed up somwhere.
Im using Solid Edge V20, very nice! (using company property for ones own personal gain;))
Well done on the overhead panel, it is more complicated than you think and its a part im not looking forward to, keep up the good work
BHawthorne
03-25-2008, 11:30 AM
Both the models look great. Here is a link that might be handy for you. It's the MS25212 milspec for panels. I'm guessing it's same for commercial panels too.
http://assist.daps.dla.mil/quicksearch/basic_profile.cfm?ident_number=40767
Click the Reversion C PDF icon. Hopefully this'll help with measurements.
My notes:
DZUS holes every .375"
Backmount Al plate .040"
Light Plate Thickness .230" +- .023" (I use .25" plexi)
Light Plate .047 +- .016" smaller length and width than backmont plate
visualchaosfx
03-27-2008, 08:03 PM
Man, if only we could press print on that and have a "STAR TREK" Replicator create one..
Nice job!
I tell you what, if there was such a thing as the holodeck, I would be in there flying a 747 all the time. It would be the ultimate experience. Program the holodeck to have the 747 docked at Heathrow. Passengers are loading in and I would have an all female flight crew :D
Aw man when are they going to invent the holodeck......
homecockpitbuilder
12-01-2009, 05:09 PM
Hello Phil,
Do you have a drawing of the measurements of the 744 overhead?
I'm tring to find them on the net but after a lot of searching nothing yet.
Bas
Rob65
12-02-2009, 04:10 PM
Wow,
this is very good work. I do modelling but rendering and placing decals is still uncharted territory for me.
I do know that the 360 photo view renderer of SolidWorks 2010 has a light emitting property for materials - almost time to start asking the helpdesk about this :o
I do plan to make panels like this, but then technically correct - complete with all the switches, knobs and other hardware.
Please continue your good work - this gets me inspired to try and do it even better ;-)
Rob
visualchaosfx
02-09-2013, 02:36 AM
A bit surprised I found this thread that I started way back when :) The modeling project was shelved a while back and now I'm resurrecting it. I don't have the overhead panel model anymore but thats ok. I'm starting anew and I started modeling the 747 throttle quad. Keep in mind, its probably not going to look exactly like the real thing but it will closely resemble it. Here's the facebook gallery link: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.535368913169780.119797.264360343603973&type=1&l=8826d4af69
Its a public link so you don't have to be logged into facebook to view it.