Project Magenta Setup

[ozziesim]

Hey guys,

Ive been looking at the Project Majenta for some time and am considering using this over PMDG for my 737NG.

Could someone give me the run down on how it works, like how many computers you would need to run it, how the PC's are networked etc.

Maybe share some diagrams of your Project Magenta Setup.

Cheers

[flightdeck]

Gidday,
in this manual you may find answers to most of your questions:
http://www.projectmagenta.com/resources/MagentaDoc11.pdf

Cheers

[ozziesim]

Thanks, i have read this but im basically after what others have done in there setup using Project Magenta.

If they could describe their project, how many PC,s were used etc. using Project Magenta and how easy they found it to set up?
René Billiani "Did you use Projecta magenta?"

[flightdeck]

Well, here we go:
Yes, I use Project Magenta!

My setup consists of 6 computers:
No. 1: Flight Simulator 2004
No. 2: PMsystems (connected to the overhead panel)
No. 3: PM Boeing Glass Cockpit (PFD and ND Captain) + PM CDU
No. 4: PM Boeing Glass Cockpit (PFD and ND FO) + PM RCDU
No. 5: PM Boeing Glass Cockpit (Upper EICAS + Lower EICAS)
No. 6: PM Instructor Station

All 6 computers are connected via WideFS

On the computers with the PM Glass Cockpit you need newer graphic cards with a good Open GL performance to ensure a clean and fluid display.

The setup is very easy, took me 5 minutes for each client.

[ozziesim]

Thanks for taking the time to document that, your sim is one i look at regularly, that kinda paints a clearer picture.

With regards to the computers do they all need to be powerful ones ? or just the ones with PM Glass. ?

[NicD]

Here's ours http://www.insitesolutions.com.au/737project/design_PC_hardware.htm

Although its changed a bit. The KVM/VGA switch is gone (replaced by UltraVNC software), and PC05 and PC03 both have dual head outputs now and we've added 8" touchscreens off each for dual EFB.

[Trevor Hale]

Hey

My setup is as follows. 1.flightsim machine running pmsounds. 2.Glass cockpit PFD/ND and MCP. 3.Glass cockpit ECAS and stanby inst. 4.PM Instructor station and VATSIM 5.PM SYSTEMS and CDU. 6.Active Sky 7.SAWXR and PM Getweather.

Everything works through FSUIPC and WIDECLIENT


Best regards.

Trev

[michelmvd]

Ok, here is my setup for my B744 cockpit
PC1 Amd 4800+ FLIGHTSIM + MCP
PC2 Amd 4800+ (CAPt PFD/ND) + CDU
PC3 Intel 3,2 Ghz (F/O PFD/ND) + RCDU
PC4 EICAS
PC5 LOWER EICAS ( very low end machines)
PC6 Intel 3,2Ghz PM SYSTEM, PM SOUNDS, PM get weather - Active Sky +other system programs as refueling , time sync

Pls also note that you can not use the PMDG logic together with PM

B. Rgds
Michel

[mpl330]

Hi,

Part way through my build but my plan is:

PC1 - AMD64 x2 4800 - FS + Pmsystems & Radar Contact (FS9 only uses 1 core of the dual CPU so I reckon Pmsystems,RC & OS will run ok on the other core) - H/W attached will be OVHD

PC2 - AMD64 4000 - PM GC (PFD,ND & EICAS) + MCP - H/W attached will be MIP/MCP/EFIS

PC3 - AMD64 3000 - PM CDU + Active SKy - H/W attached will be FMC/CDU, TQ & Pedestal.

All will be connected via WideFS

Regards
Mike

[dvamv]

Hi

Here my set up

No1: Fs-TQ drivers (Quad 6600)
No2: Cp PFD/ND (with splitter for Fo side) (P4 2.66)
No3: Upper Eicas (P4 2.4)
No4: Lower Eicas (Cel 950)
No5: Mcp + Cdu (P4 3.4)
No6: AS 6.5 + PM Sounds + FDC + Netop (Notebook)

Everything works through FSUIPC and WIDECLIENT

Dimos

[Peter Dowson]

PC3 - AMD64 3000 - PM CDU + Active SKy - H/W attached will be FMC/CDU, TQ & Pedestal.

You really want direct flight controls like yoke, rudders and throttle quadrant connected directly into your FS PC. There's too much latency otherwise. This is why networked axis controls aren't offered by WideFS.

Regards

Pete

[mpl330]

Hi Pete,

Thanks for the tip... I will have the yoke and pedals connected direct into the FS pc.

My TQ is a Symulatory TQ that uses FSBus for TQ inputs, Speed Brake, flaps and auto trim etc. but also does the inputs for the pedestal and FMC - do you think I should swap and have the OH on PC3? Wonder which would use more pc processing PMSystems or PM FMC???

Cheers
Mike

[npbosch]

I see everybody uses quite heavy machines for the clients to run PM PFD/ND.
I run them on a P3 1 Ghz and I have frame rates of 50 with a simple geforce 4 videocard (has to be opengl compatible offcourse).
Besides that they run in the background things like mcp/pmsounds/pmgetwheather.

Before that I used a Ppro200 with win98. Even that gave a good result.

[ozziesim]

Thanks for all your replies, initially i was thinking of a 1 PC setup type scenario before i looked at Project Magenta, the thing i liked about Project Magenta is its ability to use a wide range of interfacing boards and its FSX compatability. The thing that put me off was the networking of PC's.

How easy was it to network the PC,s with Project Magenta ?
Is the network setup available through the Project Magenta software or is it simply done through your own os installed on the PC such as windows XP?

One other question, i see that many have different cockpit components of the software run on up to 6 different PC's, does the software from Project Magenta come in different sections, like how do you install diffent parts of the software to different PC,s

Cheers

[Thomas Richter]

How easy was it to network the PC,s with Project Magenta ?
Is the network setup available through the Project Magenta software or is it simply done through your own os installed on the PC such as windows XP?

One other question, i see that many have different cockpit components of the software run on up to 6 different PC's, does the software from Project Magenta come in different sections, like how do you install diffent parts of the software to different PC,s

Cheers

Hello

Please take a lok to the Manual where this is clearly described.

http://www.projectmagenta.com/resources/MagentaDoc11.pdf

The Network setup and effectiveness depends only on YOUR Windows setup, how easy or complicate you have done it.
Best is ever to let run Windows as easy as possible, each safety part and addition user account will give more problems to get full access from other PC's because you need to give rights for the clients.

[ozziesim]

Ha Ha so it is, thanks Thomas, my brain must have been going into overload and it was one of those late night cockpit researching nights when reading this because for some reason i skimmed over that part.

Thanks