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    Quote Originally Posted by Boeing Skunk Works View Post
    Gywn, I may be needing a Bendix WX radar display panel bezel. Seems Nick at APHS can't hook me up with this radar display either. He claims it was only installed in third-party aircraft or private 727's.

    BS. This was a standard Bendix WX display in most of the Boeing fleet and airlines ordered them by the dozen for a certain time frame.

    I can give dimensions if you need them as this radar display is hard to find measurments for and is not found on many remaining 727's. Most have been upgraded with more sophisticated WX.
    Do you have pics and dimensions?

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    Hi Gwyn, here it is:



    This is the type that is modeled in the Dreamfleet 727 using the Reality XP WX Radar.

    I'm not in any hurry for it, just something for the near future. I'll send or post dimensions when I figure them out.
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    I could make that for you easy Mike when you have the dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boeing Skunk Works View Post
    ...I know you are also a member at the FDS forum as I am. I don't post much there anymore because of percieved attutudes at that site.

    I'm not one of the "elite" in crowd because I don't use their products. They don't build anything for my aircraft, but I still enjoy the posting and help when I'm not chastised for doing so from the owners.

    I think FDS needs to remember that they are there for you and not the other way around.
    I really couldn't agree more. I asked a simple question about a year ago and got such an incredibly rude and ellitist response, I couldn't let it pass. Next thing it seemed like the entire Forum was on me like a pack of lions. ThenI got a warning from P. Cos and was subsequently banned from the forum.

    Considering that I am in fact a commercially rated pilot, I took quite a bit of offense myself, especially as some of the comments implied I didn't know what I was talking about, and were probably from non-commercially rated pilots.

    I still visit their site on the grounds that they are about the only provider that makes panels for the aircraft I'm interested in. However, after a year, I'm still questioning whether I want to spend any money with them, especially a sizeable chunk. Admittedly it wasn't really FDS so much as the people on their forum, but it reflected badly on the company in my eyes.

    Now that Level D have released 767 for FSX, I'm going to look how much it is to get a precision panel cut and etched for backlighting effects. If it works out reasonable I will consider this as a sideline, although won't be quitting my day job for a while yet.
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    Smile

    use engravity panels the best by far ,i had to redrill the fds ones to fit the real overhead dzus rails,engravity fit smack on,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul G View Post
    I really couldn't agree more. I asked a simple question about a year ago and got such an incredibly rude and ellitist response, I couldn't let it pass. Next thing it seemed like the entire Forum was on me like a pack of lions. ThenI got a warning from P. Cos and was subsequently banned from the forum.

    Yes, it doesn't take long for a feeding frenzy to start over there.

    I too am a commercially rated pilot, and some of the BS I read over there from time to time boggles the mind.
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    Ok, lets get this thread back on track. Picking a panel manufacturer is going to be one of the hardest things you do. So take your time do some research and like you did here, talk to others. Who have you looked at so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve diamond View Post
    use engravity panels the best by far ,i had to redrill the fds ones to fit the real overhead dzus rails,engravity fit smack on,
    Boeing is a big repeat customers of FDS, so their stuff can't be all that bad. But as with any other hardware, everyone has their favourites and that is absolutely the way it should be.

    You may think Toyotas are the greatest cars around and others think Honda or whoever else are the best. It all comes down to personal preference in the end and in the end, everyone is ususally right in their own heads about their choices.

    I think it's called cognitive dissonance. You make up all kinds or reasons after the fact to justify your decisions, especially when it comes to big purchases like a car or a house (or a flight deck for that matter

    By the way, I don't think there is anything wrong about expressing your opinions about a product. But please let's keep personal attacks on any vendor out of this forum. This is really disturbing to those who may have a good relationship with that vendor and it does not serve any useful purpose at all when it comes to bettering the choices that we have when building flight decks.

    There has been tremendous progress on many sides that make all our lives much easier and starting a 'feeding frenzy' to attack anyone serves no useful purpose in my opinion. I think most of us are pretty much grown up enough to make intelligent choices on our own without being influenced by anyone's vendetta with any particular supplier.

    As for me, I will buy whatever product from whoever can supply the best quality product at the most competitive price, and I swear allegiance to no one in particular

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    Well, just stating what I've seen there.

    But you're right, I buy what will work and have no one supplier for everything. If I thought FDS would work for me, I'd buy it in a second regardless of their forum. It's an excellent product and very realistic. Panels from other suppliers I've seen on the various forums and builder's sites are very good too.

    It's unfortunate though, that more real equipment is not available for the newer airliners. I suppose it is, for a price, but real parts from current aircraft are prohibitively expensive for the average builder.

    Parts are not always cheap for out of production aircraft either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boeing Skunk Works View Post

    It's unfortunate though, that more real equipment is not available for the newer airliners. I suppose it is, for a price, but real parts from current aircraft are prohibitively expensive for the average builder.

    Parts are not always cheap for out of production aircraft either.
    You're obviously taken the 'Road Less Travelled' in your project . The end result I'm sure will be a much more realistic environment and I admire your determination to go that route with all the inherent road blocks that this entails.

    But as long as the FAA & other organizations insist on not wanting to see planes fall out of the sky because of shoddy materials, parts will always be prohibitively expensive.

    What is not clear though is why used parts that can no longer be used in functioning airplanes remain so expensive as well. If it's just a question of supply & demand, there must be a **** of a lot of flight deck builders as well wanting to use real parts, or else, who is buying these used parts? Just does not make sense to me

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