Panel recommendations

[dcutugno]

My experience with FDS MCP IBL is great! Backlighting is perfect and awesome!

I think for realism FDS and Engravity at the moment are the best choice.

Also i'm struggling myself what i will go, as i have not saw any EBL(Engravity panel).

What you guys that have EBL panels how are they in comparison to FDS?

Have i to go at one show to see how are they each other?! (I don't think Engravity sends sample panel alone)

[Paul G]

I should probably be specific. I'm looking to build a 767 modelling after the Level D one. So that significantly reduces the choices. I know FDS have one, well two. A really cheap one at $300 and a very expensive one at $800. However the expensive one is metal faced and will look incredible.

Any other company do panels other than 737NG, e.g. 7X7 or A3X0?

[Trevor Hale]

No matter what you decide, I urge you to consider all your possibilities carefully.

This is a very important decision on your part, and I would hate to see you disappointed.

Good luck on your journey!

[dnoize]

EBL(Engravity panel).

just to set a very small thing straight its EPB for us...not EBL.....(never know what confusion this can bring.)

[W9XE/Project777]

Paul:

If the 767 is the project build you really only have one choice with FDS. You will need to email Peter and ask about the $299.00 MIP. This is the older Elite Series and I dont think they are available for purchase anymore. He has been deleting items not supported anymore and this may have been missed.

The one thing I found out in this hobby is you will have to be really patient to wait on parts availability. I had planned on a 717 at first but PM would not support so I switched to the 777. Been waiting 3 years for quality parts to become avaliable. Only FDS makes any 777 sim parts and I have to wait till there in the 777 builds before I can place an order. Getting closer and it looks like this year will be the year for me.

Many builders are now switching over to 737 because there is at least 3 plus companys making 737 parts. Just this pass weekend I heard of 2 really series 777 builders switching to 737 cause they can get parts.

Sometimes I think maybe the 737 woundn't be a bad choice since there is some nice suff out there. Then I get back to reallity and say stick with it, be patient, build what you want. In the mean time my Paypal account keeps growing

[Westozy]

Paul:

If the 767 is the project build you really only have one choice with FDS. You will need to email Peter and ask about the $299.00 MIP. This is the older Elite Series and I dont think they are available for purchase anymore. He has been deleting items not supported anymore and this may have been missed.

The one thing I found out in this hobby is you will have to be really patient to wait on parts availability. I had planned on a 717 at first but PM would not support so I switched to the 777. Been waiting 3 years for quality parts to become avaliable. Only FDS makes any 777 sim parts and I have to wait till there in the 777 builds before I can place an order. Getting closer and it looks like this year will be the year for me.

Many builders are now switching over to 737 because there is at least 3 plus companys making 737 parts. Just this pass weekend I heard of 2 really series 777 builders switching to 737 cause they can get parts.

Sometimes I think maybe the 737 woundn't be a bad choice since there is some nice suff out there. Then I get back to reallity and say stick with it, be patient, build what you want. In the mean time my Paypal account keeps growing

Just tell me what you need in January Larry/Paul, this is where I think "Aerosim Solutions" can fit in. MIPs & throttle quads...easy!

Gwyn

[mauriceb]

FDS are in Canada aren't they?

They sure are. And their prices are more than competitive, especially considering the quality of their products. Just visit their website and you'll see for yourself.

Maurice

[Michael Carter]

Gywn, I may be needing a Bendix WX radar display panel bezel. Seems Nick at APHS can't hook me up with this radar display either. He claims it was only installed in third-party aircraft or private 727's.

BS. This was a standard Bendix WX display in most of the Boeing fleet and airlines ordered them by the dozen for a certain time frame.

I can give dimensions if you need them as this radar display is hard to find measurments for and is not found on many remaining 727's. Most have been upgraded with more sophisticated WX.

[Michael Carter]

They sure are. And their prices are more than competitive, especially considering the quality of their products. Just visit their website and you'll see for yourself.

Maurice

Yes, it is a very accurate product of the highest quality. I just wonder about their attutude sometimes.

I know you are also a member at the FDS forum as I am. I don't post much there anymore because of percieved attutudes at that site.

I'm not one of the "elite" in crowd because I don't use their products. They don't build anything for my aircraft, but I still enjoy the posting and help when I'm not chastised for doing so from the owners.

I think FDS needs to remember that they are there for you and not the other way around.

[mauriceb]

I think FDS needs to remember that they are there for you and not the other way around.

I don't know about your experience, but as a customer of theirs, they've always been there for me & I have never had any bad experiences with their way of doing business . On the contrary, they bend over backwards to resolve any issues and I have seen tons of evidence about that, and I also know for a fact that the great majority of their customers would back me up on that.

They are on the cutting edge of innovation for the builders and sometimes they may get behind on delivering their orders, but they always come through. When they do get behind, that's because they are busy developing new products for big commercial customers who end up paying most of the development costs for which their regular private customers benefit in the end.

I live close to their shop and I can tell you this isn't a big conglomerate with millions of dollars to spend on R&D & manufacture. They are a very small group of very dedicated & passionate people and I have nothing but the greatest respect for them. But like any business, they sometimes get in difficult situations with some customers or would be customers. Expecting perfection from them or anyone else for that matter is highly unrealistic in my opinion anyway. And I'm saying that as a customer & not as an employee or as someone affiliated with them in any way & this is strictly my personal opinion .

Maurice