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  1. #1
    JAMES WEBSTER
    Guest

    Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    Hi guys,

    I have seen this as well. Not that often though. I do get a PM sounds warning
    " Top of descent in 50 miles " up to 100 miles out from the actual CDU
    TOD.

    As far as the Descend now function goes I find retarding the Throttels first
    and then selecting Descend now works.

    James


  2. #2
    Ray Proudfoot
    Guest

    Re: Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    James,

    I'll try that suggestion and see if it solves the problem.

    Thanks.


    "JAMES WEBSTER" wrote in message
    news:388601.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    > Hi guys,
    >
    > I have seen this as well. Not that often though. I do get a PM sounds
    > warning
    > " Top of descent in 50 miles " up to 100 miles out from the actual CDU
    > TOD.
    >
    > As far as the Descend now function goes I find retarding the Throttels
    > first
    > and then selecting Descend now works.
    >
    > James
    >



  3. #3
    Ray Proudfoot
    Guest

    Re: Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    James,

    I tried your suggestion but it didn't work. This definitely worked in the
    past so I'm hoping Enrico can help. Most won't get this problem. It's only
    because I use Radar Contact I need to start down earlier than ToD.

    Cheers.


    "JAMES WEBSTER" wrote in message
    news:388601.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    > Hi guys,
    >
    > I have seen this as well. Not that often though. I do get a PM sounds
    > warning
    > " Top of descent in 50 miles " up to 100 miles out from the actual CDU
    > TOD.
    >
    > As far as the Descend now function goes I find retarding the Throttels
    > first
    > and then selecting Descend now works.
    >
    > James
    >



  4. #4
    JAMES WEBSTER
    Guest

    Re: Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    Sorry about that.

    I use it online a fair bit if a flight ahead of me reports some chop at a
    certain flight level near a waypoint on my route.

    Hope you get sorted.

    James


  5. #5
    Eddie Armaos
    Guest

    RE: Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    Ray and James,

    I didn't have any problem with the descent now function. I use it very
    often
    about 10-20 miles earlier then than the calculated ToD for passengers
    confort like many airways use it in real life. The same logic is also works
    with the AltIntervention to a lower altitude and the a/c starts a descent
    with -1000F/M

    Do you have problems like these I posted? (on ToD the a/c continues in
    straight level flight without descent?, or any problems with V/S or FLCH?)


    Thanks


    Eddie






  6. #6
    Ray Proudfoot
    Guest

    Re: Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    Eddie,

    I don't use VS or FLCH. If I'm told to start down by Radar Contact I usually

    request a Pilot Discretion which if granted allows me to start down at the
    ToD. If it isn't granted I just nag until they relent .

    Enrico's back now so perhaps he can look into this.

    Cheers.


    "Eddie Armaos" wrote in message
    news:388789.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    > Ray and James,
    >
    > I didn't have any problem with the descent now function. I use it very
    > often
    > about 10-20 miles earlier then than the calculated ToD for passengers
    > confort like many airways use it in real life. The same logic is also
    > works
    > with the AltIntervention to a lower altitude and the a/c starts a descent
    > with -1000F/M
    >
    > Do you have problems like these I posted? (on ToD the a/c continues in
    > straight level flight without descent?, or any problems with V/S or

    FLCH?)
    >
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    >
    > Eddie
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >



  7. #7
    Enrico Schiratti
    Guest

    Re: Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    > Do you have problems like these I posted? (on ToD the a/c continues in
    > straight level flight without descent?, or any problems with V/S or

    FLCH?)

    I have been going through this as well, and I can't reproduce it... wonder
    whether it has anything to do with the way the offsets are being used/ set
    and re-set?

    If I remember correctly you have an FSBUS implementation? To avoid any
    confusion, I am not using the CPFlight hardware but clicking on the graphics

    on my end, you will understand I can't have a hardware setup for any
    possible permutation used out there.

    Can you give me a scenario where the things you observed can be reproduced
    here by me?

    Ciao

    Enrico


  8. #8
    Enrico Schiratti
    Guest

    Re: Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    Hi Ray,

    I still can't reproduce the problem here, i.e. I do get the descend now as
    it should be... looks like I am stuck trying to observe things so I am able

    to do something about them.

    Ciao

    Enrico

    "Ray Proudfoot" wrote in message
    news:388711.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    > James,
    >
    > I tried your suggestion but it didn't work. This definitely worked in the
    > past so I'm hoping Enrico can help. Most won't get this problem. It's

    only
    > because I use Radar Contact I need to start down earlier than ToD.
    >
    > Cheers.
    >
    >
    > "JAMES WEBSTER" wrote in message
    > news:388601.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    >> Hi guys,
    >>
    >> I have seen this as well. Not that often though. I do get a PM sounds
    >> warning
    >> " Top of descent in 50 miles " up to 100 miles out from the actual CDU
    >> TOD.
    >>
    >> As far as the Descend now function goes I find retarding the Throttels
    >> first
    >> and then selecting Descend now works.
    >>
    >> James
    >>

    >



  9. #9
    Ray Proudfoot
    Guest

    Re: Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    Hi Enrico,

    I'm using the Aerosoft MCP. I dial in the lower altitude (but don't press
    the white altitude knob) and then press Descend Now but the aircraft refuses

    to descend. Are you using the Aerosoft MCP? I wonder if that might be a
    factor?

    Cheers,


    "Enrico Schiratti" wrote in message
    news:389238.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    > Hi Ray,
    >
    > I still can't reproduce the problem here, i.e. I do get the descend now

    as
    > it should be... looks like I am stuck trying to observe things so I am
    > able
    >
    > to do something about them.
    >
    > Ciao
    >
    > Enrico
    >
    > "Ray Proudfoot" wrote in message
    > news:388711.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    >> James,
    >>
    >> I tried your suggestion but it didn't work. This definitely worked in

    the
    >> past so I'm hoping Enrico can help. Most won't get this problem. It's

    > only
    >> because I use Radar Contact I need to start down earlier than ToD.
    >>
    >> Cheers.
    >>
    >>
    >> "JAMES WEBSTER" wrote in message
    >> news:388601.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    >>> Hi guys,
    >>>
    >>> I have seen this as well. Not that often though. I do get a PM sounds
    >>> warning
    >>> " Top of descent in 50 miles " up to 100 miles out from the actual CDU
    >>> TOD.
    >>>
    >>> As far as the Descend now function goes I find retarding the Throttels
    >>> first
    >>> and then selecting Descend now works.
    >>>
    >>> James
    >>>

    >>

    >



  10. #10
    Bill Trinidad
    Guest

    Re: Descent and V/S-FLCH issues

    Hi Ray,

    I remember that Enrico told me that he DID NOT have an Aerosoft MCP ( that
    may have changed since that time. )

    I, too, have an Aerosoft MCP for my 737 but rarley use the VNAV, so I cannot

    see the issue that you are describing.

    Cheers,

    Bill

    "Ray Proudfoot" wrote in message
    news:389256.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    > Hi Enrico,
    >
    > I'm using the Aerosoft MCP. I dial in the lower altitude (but don't press
    > the white altitude knob) and then press Descend Now but the aircraft
    > refuses
    >
    > to descend. Are you using the Aerosoft MCP? I wonder if that might be a
    > factor?
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    >
    > "Enrico Schiratti" wrote in message
    > news:389238.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    >> Hi Ray,
    >>
    >> I still can't reproduce the problem here, i.e. I do get the descend now

    > as
    >> it should be... looks like I am stuck trying to observe things so I am
    >> able
    >>
    >> to do something about them.
    >>
    >> Ciao
    >>
    >> Enrico
    >>
    >> "Ray Proudfoot" wrote in message
    >> news:388711.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    >>> James,
    >>>
    >>> I tried your suggestion but it didn't work. This definitely worked in

    > the
    >>> past so I'm hoping Enrico can help. Most won't get this problem. It's

    >> only
    >>> because I use Radar Contact I need to start down earlier than ToD.
    >>>
    >>> Cheers.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "JAMES WEBSTER" wrote in message
    >>> news:388601.77722@wb.onvix.com...
    >>>> Hi guys,
    >>>>
    >>>> I have seen this as well. Not that often though. I do get a PM sounds
    >>>> warning
    >>>> " Top of descent in 50 miles " up to 100 miles out from the actual CDU
    >>>> TOD.
    >>>>
    >>>> As far as the Descend now function goes I find retarding the Throttels
    >>>> first
    >>>> and then selecting Descend now works.
    >>>>
    >>>> James
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>

    >



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