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  1. #1
    David Rabiner
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    Re: Avionics/BatteryLife-Lastone

    Thomas,

    That's a great addition you wrote. Thanks!

    I'm wondering about the "reality" of:

    > 2. If APU is running and Eng1 - N1>10 and Busselect2 not select on GEN1
    > -- "GEN 1/2 FAULT" indicate
    >
    > 3. If APU is running and Eng2 - N1>10 and Busselect2 not select on GEN2
    > -- "GEN 1/2 FAULT" indicate
    >
    > 4. If APU and (ENG1 or ENG2) is running and Busselect2 is not select
    > on GEN1 or APUGen or GEN2
    > -- "Batt Dischasrge" and "GEN 1/2 FAULT" indicate


    The reason I ask is that I *thought* the Busselect is only to indicate what

    is being displayed in the meter. As a result, I'm wondering if a "GEN 1/2
    FAULT" would indicate simply because you're not displaying the GEN in the
    meter.

    ???

    Warm regards,
    David


  2. #2
    Peter Dowson
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    Re: Avionics/BatteryLife-Lastone

    On 1/31/2005 11:32:47 AM, David Rabiner wrote:

    >The reason I ask is that I *thought* the
    >Busselect is only to indicate what
    >is being displayed in the meter. As a
    >result, I'm wondering if a "GEN 1/2
    >FAULT" would indicate simply because
    >you're not displaying the GEN in the
    >meter.


    I agree. I did post a message earlier pointing out that the two rotary
    selectors are only to select what is to be displayed above -- the left selector
    for DC, the right for AC.

    Regards,

    Pete


  3. #3
    Peter Dowson
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    Re: Avionics/BatteryLife-Lastone

    On 1/31/2005 7:56:33 PM, Thomas Richter wrote:
    >Hi Pete,
    >first problem off all was your
    >FSUIPC-switch for
    >Battery-Life.


    Sorry, I don't understand. What was a problem with it? The option is just
    that, an option. It can be switched off, or, indeed, adjusted to give the
    appropriate battery life. But of course it does not take into account the drain
    on the battery. I understood pmSystems was going to handle this, but does
    it yet? It will have to manipulate the battery voltage at offset 2834. If
    that is allowed to get too low (less than about 17 volts for the default 737
    model), the battery is dead.

    >The Alternators will now
    >charge if GEN 1 or GEN 2
    >Switch select to on and
    >"GEN OFF BUS" lights are off.


    Okay ... how does this relate to the FAULT indications just because a
    different selection is made for the meter display values? I must admit I am a
    little confused now.

    Regards,

    Pete


  4. #4
    Thomas Richter
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    Re: Avionics/BatteryLife-Lastone

    Hi Pete,

    > Sorry, I don't understand. What was a problem with it? The option is just
    > that, an option. It can be switched off, or, indeed, adjusted to give the
    > appropriate battery life. But of course it does not take into account the


    > drain
    > on the battery. I understood pmSystems was going to handle this, but does
    > it yet? It will have to manipulate the battery voltage at offset 2834. If
    > that is allowed to get too low (less than about 17 volts for the default
    > 737
    > model), the battery is dead.


    With "Problem" I mean Your FSUIPC is the best Addon I know. I use the option

    "Batterylife" as long as it is there.
    But then I started with GoFlight-Modules and I konfigured the switches to
    switch ON FSMasterBattery and FSMasterAlternator and so on, all OK.
    And then I started with PM-GC and now PM-System. And PM-System didn`t switch

    the Alternator to ON, I could see it on
    the LED from my GoFlight-T8, and THEN I had a Problem because Battery was
    going to dead and MCP and other Modules switched OFF.
    Apparently other Simmer dont use the option and there Battery will never
    dead, because they all mast have the same problem, that the FSStarter is
    going from Start (Pos-1) to GEN-OFF (Pos-0) and not to GEN-ON (Pos-2) after

    enginestart.

    >>The Alternators will now
    >>charge if GEN 1 or GEN 2
    >>Switch select to on and
    >>"GEN OFF BUS" lights are off.

    >
    > Okay ... how does this relate to the FAULT indications just because a
    > different selection is made for the meter display values? I must admit I
    > am a
    > little confused now.


    Now I changed the LOGIC correct (files from yesterday).
    And the Meter Display is showing nothing like before, only STATIC Numbers,
    nothing is read out from FS2004.
    But I think this will change with Phase II or III, not important now.

    Some correct readout numbers will show this:
    But only to see what happend with fsbattery and fs alternator, was important

    for me to understand some logic in PM-System.
    Insert in [Elements]
    showtext MainBusAmps,-123,84,8,00
    showtext TotalLoadAmps,-110,84,8,00
    showtext fsBattVolt,-123,76.3,8,00
    showtext APUGenHz,-95,84,8,000
    -----------------------------
    MainBusAmps = Amps that Alternator is charging
    TotalLoadAmps = Amps that FS actual use (depents of systems used)
    showtext fsBattVolt = actual FSBattery Volts
    APUGenHz = AC APU Frec.
    But this was only for tests!!

    And Pete, your Software is the BEST, there is no Problem with it.
    The problem is myself, every time some ideas and ...
    Oh, and in Logic I insert 2 lines to have SMOKE above 75% N1, FS switch
    SmokeSystem on and off.

    --
    Best Regards
    Thomas - EW321

    > Regards,
    >
    > Pete
    >



  5. #5
    Peter Dowson
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    Re: Avionics/BatteryLife-Lastone

    On 2/1/2005 5:42:11 AM, Thomas Richter wrote:
    >And then I started with PM-GC
    >and now PM-System. And
    >PM-System didn`t switch
    >the Alternator to ON, I could
    >see it on
    >the LED from my GoFlight-T8,
    >and THEN I had a Problem
    >because Battery was
    >going to dead and MCP and
    >other Modules switched OFF.


    I see. Thanks for the clarification!

    >Now I changed the LOGIC
    >correct (files from
    >yesterday).
    >And the Meter Display is
    >showing nothing like before,
    >only STATIC Numbers,
    >nothing is read out from
    >FS2004.
    >But I think this will change
    >with Phase II or III, not
    >important now.


    Right.

    >Insert in [Elements]
    >showtext
    >MainBusAmps,-123,84,8,00
    >showtext
    >TotalLoadAmps,-110,84,8,00
    >showtext
    >fsBattVolt,-123,76.3,8,00
    >showtext APUGenHz,-95,84,8,000
    >-----------------------------
    >MainBusAmps = Amps that
    >Alternator is charging
    >TotalLoadAmps = Amps that FS
    >actual use (depents of systems
    >used)
    >showtext fsBattVolt = actual
    >FSBattery Volts
    >APUGenHz = AC APU Frec.
    >But this was only for tests!!


    But not useful in any case?

    >Oh, and in Logic I insert 2
    >lines to have SMOKE above 75%
    >N1, FS switch
    >SmokeSystem on and off.


    Yes, but doesn't that depend on whether the FS aircraft model is equipped for
    smoke? I thought that was mainly for military display models?

    Thanks,

    Pete


  6. #6
    Thomas Richter
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    Re: Avionics/BatteryLife-Lastone

    Hi Pete,

    >>Oh, and in Logic I insert 2
    >>lines to have SMOKE above 75%
    >>N1, FS switch
    >>SmokeSystem on and off.

    >
    > Yes, but doesn't that depend on whether the FS aircraft model is equipped


    > for
    > smoke? I thought that was mainly for military display models?


    I use the Smoke-system on all planes. In reality on take off the engines
    work very rich, black smoke, and for this I use it.
    Thats for PMDG 737-700

    [SMOKESYSTEM]
    smoke.0= 40.0, -45.0, -20.0, cs727_dim
    smoke.1= 40.0, -40.0, 20.0, cs727_dim

    and for CRJ-200

    [SMOKESYSTEM]
    smoke.0=5.00, -24.00, -4.50, cs727_dim
    smoke.1=5.00, -24.00, 4.50, cs727_dim


    The cs727_dim is in this case from Legendary 727 (Payware), but there are a

    lot of fx-files to use.

    --
    Best Regards
    Thomas - EW321


    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Pete
    >



  7. #7
    Peter Dowson
    Guest

    Re: Avionics/BatteryLife-Lastone

    On 2/1/2005 9:06:39 AM, Thomas Richter wrote:
    >I use the Smoke-system on all
    >planes. In reality on take off
    >the engines
    >work very rich, black smoke,
    >and for this I use it.
    >Thats for PMDG 737-700
    >
    >[SMOKESYSTEM]
    >smoke.0= 40.0, -45.0, -20.0,
    >cs727_dim
    >smoke.1= 40.0, -40.0, 20.0,
    >cs727_dim


    Oh, right. This is in the Aircraft.CFG file I assume?

    >The cs727_dim is in this case
    >from Legendary 727 (Payware),
    >but there are a
    >lot of fx-files to use.


    How do you identify "smoke" ones? I'd never guess from a name like
    "cs727_dim"!

    Regards,

    Pete


  8. #8
    Thomas Richter
    Guest

    Re: Avionics/BatteryLife-Lastone

    Hi Pete,

    > How do you identify "smoke" ones? I'd never guess from a name like
    > "cs727_dim"!

    This Smoke file is from:
    Legendary 727 v1.3\n(c) 2003 Captain Sim (PayWare 727)

    The Smoke-files goes to fs2004\Effects folder.
    Here are some.

    --
    Best Regards
    Thomas - EW321



    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Pete
    >


  9. #9
    Thomas Richter
    Guest

    Re: Avionics/BatteryLife-Lastone

    Hi Pete,
    first problem off all was your FSUIPC-switch for Battery-Life.
    I use it, because it is reality.
    But PM-System does not support FS-Alternator in its logic. So I tried to
    find out the reasen.
    Help for this I got from Your GREAT FSUIPC to show what happend with the
    Offsets.
    Helpfull for this was also to show in PM-System with lights was happend and

    also to play a little bit
    with the logic.
    Now I changed this in the meter bag to normal.
    The Alternators will now charge if GEN 1 or GEN 2 Switch select to on and
    "GEN OFF BUS" lights are off.
    Like it should.

    --
    Best Regards
    Thomas - EW321

    "Peter Dowson" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:289352.57346@wb.onvix.com...
    > On 1/31/2005 11:32:47 AM, David Rabiner wrote:
    >
    >>The reason I ask is that I *thought* the
    >>Busselect is only to indicate what
    >>is being displayed in the meter. As a
    >>result, I'm wondering if a "GEN 1/2
    >>FAULT" would indicate simply because
    >>you're not displaying the GEN in the
    >>meter.

    >
    > I agree. I did post a message earlier pointing out that the two rotary
    > selectors are only to select what is to be displayed above -- the left
    > selector
    > for DC, the right for AC.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Pete
    >



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