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  1. #1
    null null
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    KLM accident in Barcelona

    Hello Jaap,

    Do you happen to know waht caused the KLM B737-400 accident in Barcelona,
    on
    November 28th? (Swerving off Runway 25R on landing)

    Stamatis


  2. #2
    Steve Kelly
    Guest

    RE: KLM accident in Barcelona

    Hi Stamatis,

    While awaiting Jaap, I did a quick Google to see if there was anything on
    the web.

    http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_news.htm

    Quite a lot of photo's of it here
    http://myaviation.net/search/search....earch=ACCIDENT

    ACK-CHOO-ALLY, I did check out simpilot.net as they are the galactic
    authority on aviation, but no mention. Headline is "Malaria in Dominican
    Republic". I wonder if the World Health Organisation is aware?

    Steve

    -----Original Message-----
    From: oldfarts: Stamatis Vellis
    [mailtoldfarts.listmanager@news.projectmagenta.com]
    Sent: 09 December 2004 12:15
    To: Recipients of 'oldfarts' suppressed
    Subject: KLM accident in Barcelona

    From: "Stamatis Vellis"

    Hello Jaap,

    Do you happen to know waht caused the KLM B737-400 accident in Barcelona,
    on
    November 28th? (Swerving off Runway 25R on landing)

    Stamatis



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  3. #3
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    Re: KLM accident in Barcelona

    Thanks Steve.
    But even the link says: "It remains unclear what caused the problem."

    Stamatis





    "Steve Kelly" wrote in message
    news:275590.54727@wb.onvix.com...
    > Hi Stamatis,
    >
    > While awaiting Jaap, I did a quick Google to see if there was anything on
    > the web.
    >
    > http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_news.htm
    >
    > Quite a lot of photo's of it here
    > http://myaviation.net/search/search....earch=ACCIDENT
    >
    > ACK-CHOO-ALLY, I did check out simpilot.net as they are the galactic
    > authority on aviation, but no mention. Headline is "Malaria in Dominican
    > Republic". I wonder if the World Health Organisation is aware?
    >
    > Steve
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: oldfarts: Stamatis Vellis
    > [mailtoldfarts.listmanager@news.projectmagenta.com]
    > Sent: 09 December 2004 12:15
    > To: Recipients of 'oldfarts' suppressed
    > Subject: KLM accident in Barcelona
    >
    > From: "Stamatis Vellis"
    >
    > Hello Jaap,
    >
    > Do you happen to know waht caused the KLM B737-400 accident in Barcelona,
    > on
    > November 28th? (Swerving off Runway 25R on landing)
    >
    > Stamatis
    >
    >
    >
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    >



  4. #4
    Steve Kelly
    Guest

    RE: KLM accident in Barcelona

    Stamatis,

    Did you read the part starting,

    "An unverified source (on PPRuNe) gave the following information:"

    Dum-de-dum etc.


    Still not 'the' answer, but if you follow the links, it 'might' have been a
    bird strike damaging the nose gear. But I hate speculation, so will stop
    before I accuse myself of it

    Steve




    -----Original Message-----
    From: oldfarts: Stamatis Vellis
    [mailtoldfarts.listmanager@news.projectmagenta.com]
    Sent: 09 December 2004 14:02
    To: Recipients of 'oldfarts' suppressed
    Subject: Re: KLM accident in Barcelona

    From: "Stamatis Vellis"

    Thanks Steve.
    But even the link says: "It remains unclear what caused the problem."

    Stamatis





    "Steve Kelly" wrote in message
    news:275590.54727@wb.onvix.com...
    > Hi Stamatis,
    >
    > While awaiting Jaap, I did a quick Google to see if there was anything on
    > the web.
    >
    > http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_news.htm
    >
    > Quite a lot of photo's of it here
    > http://myaviation.net/search/search....earch=ACCIDENT
    >
    > ACK-CHOO-ALLY, I did check out simpilot.net as they are the galactic
    > authority on aviation, but no mention. Headline is "Malaria in Dominican
    > Republic". I wonder if the World Health Organisation is aware?
    >
    > Steve
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: oldfarts: Stamatis Vellis
    > [mailtoldfarts.listmanager@news.projectmagenta.com]
    > Sent: 09 December 2004 12:15
    > To: Recipients of 'oldfarts' suppressed
    > Subject: KLM accident in Barcelona
    >
    > From: "Stamatis Vellis"
    >
    > Hello Jaap,
    >
    > Do you happen to know waht caused the KLM B737-400 accident in Barcelona,
    > on
    > November 28th? (Swerving off Runway 25R on landing)
    >
    > Stamatis
    >
    >
    >
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    >




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  5. #5
    Jaap Korteweg
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    Re: KLM accident in Barcelona

    Stamatis,

    I haven't heard anything official, but the birdhit causing damage to
    the nosewheelstrut seems like a logical explanation.
    By coincidence we were on the way to Toulouse when we heard Maastricht
    ACC talk to the Barcelona flight, to tell them that the runway in
    Amsterdam was checked, and that only small fragments of bird were
    found. That's normal after an aircraft had a birdhit. Laughing the
    pilot replied that the biggest part of the bird must then still be on
    board.
    I can imagine that the bird (a buzzard) caused damage to the steering,
    maybe it was stuck in one position. At high speeds you have sufficient
    rudder force to keep the aircarft on the runway. Once the aircraft
    slows down...
    But it also could easily be that the bird had nothing to do with it.

    I was in Barcelona a week later, and saw the aircaft on jacks, like in
    the pictures. The damage seems minor, but I heard they're not sure if
    it's a total write off or not. Are you looking for cheap cockpit parts?


    Jaap



    On 9 Dec 2004, at 13:14, oldfarts: Stamatis Vellis wrote:

    > From: "Stamatis Vellis"
    >
    > Hello Jaap,
    >
    > Do you happen to know waht caused the KLM B737-400 accident in
    > Barcelona, on
    > November 28th? (Swerving off Runway 25R on landing)
    >
    > Stamatis




  6. #6
    null null
    Guest

    Re: KLM accident in Barcelona

    Hi Jaap,

    > Are you looking for cheap cockpit parts?


    In this case I could be looking for a cheap... B737-400!

    Stamatis


    "Jaap Korteweg" wrote in message
    news:275741.54727@wb.onvix.com...
    > Stamatis,
    >
    > I haven't heard anything official, but the birdhit causing damage to
    > the nosewheelstrut seems like a logical explanation.
    > By coincidence we were on the way to Toulouse when we heard Maastricht
    > ACC talk to the Barcelona flight, to tell them that the runway in
    > Amsterdam was checked, and that only small fragments of bird were
    > found. That's normal after an aircraft had a birdhit. Laughing the
    > pilot replied that the biggest part of the bird must then still be on
    > board.
    > I can imagine that the bird (a buzzard) caused damage to the steering,
    > maybe it was stuck in one position. At high speeds you have sufficient
    > rudder force to keep the aircarft on the runway. Once the aircraft
    > slows down...
    > But it also could easily be that the bird had nothing to do with it.
    >
    > I was in Barcelona a week later, and saw the aircaft on jacks, like in
    > the pictures. The damage seems minor, but I heard they're not sure if
    > it's a total write off or not. Are you looking for cheap cockpit parts?
    >
    >
    > Jaap
    >
    >
    >
    > On 9 Dec 2004, at 13:14, oldfarts: Stamatis Vellis wrote:
    >
    > > From: "Stamatis Vellis"
    > >
    > > Hello Jaap,
    > >
    > > Do you happen to know waht caused the KLM B737-400 accident in
    > > Barcelona, on
    > > November 28th? (Swerving off Runway 25R on landing)
    > >
    > > Stamatis

    >
    >



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