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  1. #1
    Steve Kelly
    Guest

    Flight plan question

    Marc,

    When I flew to Madeira last month, it was via oceanic airspace.

    Why?

    My thoughts are it must be cheaper than overflying France, Spain and
    Portugal and paying their ATC charges. The extra time and fuel and oceanic
    charges must be lower.

    Could you plan a UA flight (EGKK-LPMA) and see which route is chooses. And
    do you see costs?
    Then send it via the Atlantic and see if the costs change?

    Most airlines out of EGLL/EGKK overfly land, but the one I chose didn't and
    I lie awake at night wondering why

    My route was;

    EGKK..SAM.UR8.DAWLY.UR8.GAPLI.UM197.GUNSO.UN486.OMOKO.T16.4500N/01600W.T16.4
    000N/01600W.T16.NAVIX.T16.SNT..LPMA/0323

    Which I put into my GPS and tracked all the way. The flight actually took
    this route as I've got the saved track.
    I didn't have the return flight plan, but it was basically inverted.

    Aircraft was B737-800, airline was Excel Airways.

    Looking forward to a good nights sleep.

    Steve




  2. #2
    Jaap Korteweg
    Guest

    Re: Flight plan question

    Steve,

    Another reason could be slot times on the normal route, although at
    this time of year those are normally not that dramatic...

    Jaap


    On 8 Dec 2004, at 13:23, oldfarts: Steve Kelly wrote:

    > From: "Steve Kelly"
    >
    > Marc,
    >
    > When I flew to Madeira last month, it was via oceanic airspace.
    >
    > Why?




  3. #3
    Steve Kelly
    Guest

    RE: Flight plan question

    Jaap,

    Thanks for that, it might be the obvious reason I was missing.

    Steve
    p.s. It looks like you don't have a problem posting. I've still not had
    my
    message with the wrong e-mail address returned.



    -----Original Message-----
    From: oldfarts: Jaap Korteweg
    [mailtoldfarts.listmanager@news.projectmagenta.com]
    Sent: 09 December 2004 10:12
    To: Recipients of 'oldfarts' suppressed
    Subject: Re: Flight plan question

    From: "Jaap Korteweg"

    Steve,

    Another reason could be slot times on the normal route, although at
    this time of year those are normally not that dramatic...

    Jaap


    On 8 Dec 2004, at 13:23, oldfarts: Steve Kelly wrote:

    > From: "Steve Kelly"
    >
    > Marc,
    >
    > When I flew to Madeira last month, it was via oceanic airspace.
    >
    > Why?





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