Throttle parts - Motorized by servos

[fordgt40]

What do you think FSUIPC does?

Have you looked at the range of Opencockpits control cards and their SIOC language which provides extensive I/O control?

David

[freddehboy]

Hi

I have shall look more closely in opencockpit product range

I have seen: http://www.throttletek.com/

The price is very reasonable in that case I can buy it and let them modefied the unit and start to build my yoke instead, I have plan to build my own overhead panel too, maybe

To build a throttle motorized cost about 4500:- in Sweden. Buy this unit about 4300:-!

Best Fredrik

[freddehboy]

Hi

I have checked openccockpit and theirs software looks better than i thought If it works good with fsuipc or if I can alternatively make some lua or like that!

Can a steel buy dc motor from phidgets too fit together vid opencockpit´s (OC) I/O card since OC have noy any dc motors´?

Do you mean that "slip clutch" is like a on/off for the drive axe, do you mean I can choose that dc if I am want to manula overide the engine?

I think FSUIPC is just a program to program the controller with offset as the fsx can read to do stuff for the simulator!?

Best Fredrik

[fordgt40]

SIOC works perfectly with FSUIPC

You can use any motor with OC cards, provided that it meets the control cards parameters

You must use a slip clutch if you want to manually override the levers if driven by a geared dc motor- as suggested before do a google search on polyclutch

FSUIPC is basically a "door" into important variables enabling you to read/manipulate many FS9/X internal variables. It also can read control axes, set up control sensitivity, assign button presses, generate mouse macros, link to other pc`s across a network and much more. It does not programme a motor controller

David

[freddehboy]

Hi

Now have I finally two good alternative in what DC motor I should choose :
http://shop.paolettiferrero.it/produ...8+SERIES~.html

My condition are:
The USB DcMotors board can manage Dc motors from 5V to 36V, up to 1Amp (included maximum peak of 2 Amps),

The two DC motor which match have this data:
1 - 12VDC; 580mA; 1Nm = 10.19716 kg-cm; 200:1
2 - 12VDC; 300mA; 1Nm = 10.19716 kg-cm; 500:1

These two clutch will match the 6mm axe:

3 - http://www.polyclutch.com/mechanical...es-16-slippers
4 - http://www.polyclutch.com/pneumatic-...ches/slip-aire

I like the dc who has more mA, do you agree, what about 500:1?

What Polyclutch should I buy, I think the less expensive one!?

Edit: I have seen that the polyclutch is rather expensive, about 420pound, is not it?
Does i need a polyclutch to servos, if not what will it be?

Best Fredrik

[fordgt40]

I would go for the lower rpm and lower ma.
Sorry, I have no experience of Polyclutch, though a number of other builders have used them. I made my own clutch using a lathe and milling machine - not for the faint hearted!
You cannot manually override a servo if it is still under "control" . Although you can switch off a servo under programme command with some control boards eg Opencockpitsdo and then move it by hand. If you wish to manually override the servo at any time then you will need a clutch and some good programming

David

[freddehboy]

Hi

First I am very grateful for your big help

I should maybe go for servos for its simplicity to build and install in the throttle?

I can maybe in the future upgrade it?

The whole reason for a motorized is for the realism and to have servos in one way is far better than nothing so back to a servo solution

"You cannot manually override a servo if it is still under "control" . Although you can switch off a servo under programme command with some control boards eg Opencockpitsdo and then move it by hand. If you wish to manually override the servo at any time then you will need a clutch and some good programming"

Do you think I can swith the sevo OFF with the same button as A/T disconnection or like that and simply swith the servo ON when the A/T is engage!

Anyway I have choose this board: http://www.opencockpits.com/catalog/...ml?cPath=21_32
You mean this board has a such function or like that?

I have choose this servo for throttle:
http://www.hitecrcd.com/products/ana.../hs-815bb.html

This for Speedbbrake;
http://www.hitecrcd.com/products/ana...rt/hs-422.html

But will this servos work with the usb servo board?

I maybe will build a clutch in the future but it is to much to buy?

I will send a question to OC and ask about this. I will be back when I have the answer//

Best Fredrik

[fordgt40]

I can maybe in the future upgrade it? - unlikely, the mechanics are different

Do you think I can swith the sevo OFF with the same button as A/T disconnection or like that and simply swith the servo ON when the A/T is engage! -- yes with SIOC

Anyway I have choose this board: http://www.opencockpits.com/catalog/...ml?cPath=21_32
You mean this board has a such function or like that? --- if you send a value of 0 to the servo, it turns it off. To do what you want you will also need to buy Opencockpits USB expansion card and a mastercard

I would use the same servos for both the throttles and speed brake

Remember that you will need to use gearing between the servo and the throttle levers to get the right speed, assuming that the servo drives the throttle levers to quickly or use some clever programming in SIOC to introduce delays. Either way, you run the risk of jerky movement as explained earlier in this thread

I use miniature Hitec servos in gauges running on the OC USBservo board - you need to change the servo wiring harness

David

[freddehboy]

To do what you want you will also need to buy Opencockpits USB expansion card and a mastercard

Is the reason that the USB Servo card does not handle such function I am look for?

Remember that you will need to use gearing between the servo and the throttle levers to get the right speed, assuming that the servo drives the throttle levers to quickly or use some clever programming in SIOC to introduce delays. Either way, you run the risk of jerky movement as explained earlier in this thread

The reason is that a servo cannot change its speed by itseslf, is not it?

You need to change the servo wiring harness

All of this sounds like a DC motor solution is better and sounds easier to setup!

Stupid question, anyway, can I use any manufacturer of Clutches by my choice?

I will investigate botch the alternative// Best Fredrik

[fordgt40]

Fredrik

Instead of asking questions you should read the manuals and understand what the cards do and how. Also, as advised earlier, you need to do much more research before making decisions.

Answers to your questions above can be found in Opencockpit`s documentation.

David