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    PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Here we go again After C172 I manage to find a real classic, PIK-5b glider cockpit:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIK-5

    Few pictures as it is now:
    http://lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/kuvat...0-%2520OH-PAY/

    The sim is going to run with Silent Wings simulator:
    http://www.silentwings.no/

    The gauges are going to be made with Simmeters-software
    http://www.simmeters.com/

    At the moment I am busy developing the original flight model for the sim.

    True classic:
    http://www.mikkelinlentoasema.fi/en/...pohjanvirt.jpg

    Here is also short software test:
    http://lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/kuvat...Y/MVI_0924.MOV

    In the final version there's only virtual yaw string in the outside view.

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Great project! Thumbs up

    I'm also working on a glider cockpit. Some of it is read here http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/show...-for-Glidersim

    I'm building the yah string as well with a servo for the movment and a small fan for the "fluttering" effect

    Looking forward to new posts and project images to your new Sim

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    I second that, a great project indeed!

    Glider sims are definitely on the Up, would be great to see a silent wings sim, you also have Condor available too, plenty of great sims based on that!

    Keep us posted.

    Cheers, Alex
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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    p.s. the last marking in the logbook is from 60's.

    If you are wondering what it says in the tail, it means:
    "Always use Eura (a place in Finland) paper products".

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Jay View Post
    I second that, a great project indeed!

    Glider sims are definitely on the Up, would be great to see a silent wings sim, you also have Condor available too, plenty of great sims based on that!

    Keep us posted.

    Cheers, Alex
    I also considered should I use Condor or Silent Wings but when I heard that there are no any Finnish scenery packages for Condor and for Silent Wings there is a brand new Finnish scenery package available it was quite easy choice.

    I also love the 'open' source enviroment of Silent Wings. You can basically edit everything in this program, starting from the front end to the models, etc.

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Quote Originally Posted by skino View Post
    Great project! Thumbs up

    I'm also working on a glider cockpit. Some of it is read here http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/show...-for-Glidersim

    I'm building the yah string as well with a servo for the movment and a small fan for the "fluttering" effect

    Looking forward to new posts and project images to your new Sim
    This looks also very pro. Great to see that you are building all gauges yourself.

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    I have done a few glider flights myself and it is fascinating how these things fly, I cant wait to see how this works out for you...
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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Since I am not so familiar with Silent Wings simulator I would like to ask your opinion about my latest innovation
    As you all know, old gliders are really noisy and the wind really affects to the old wooden cockpit if you fly a bit faster.

    My idea would be to add a normal computer cooler fan to the PIK-5 cockpit, behind the rudder pedals. Once you are airborne and you fly a bit faster
    the computer cooler fan would blow air inside the cockpit. The amount of airspeed and the speed of the cooler would change depending how fast you are flying.

    Here's the tricky part: how do you bring out the airspeed indicator data and connect it to the computer cooler fan. I would really love to see this working.

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    A RC servo connect to the USB port rotate a potentiometer which adjusts the speed of fans depending on the speed and the wind in the simulator. So I'll do it.

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Quote Originally Posted by skino View Post
    A RC servo connect to the USB port rotate a potentiometer which adjusts the speed of fans depending on the speed and the wind in the simulator. So I'll do it.
    Could you kindly explain this a bit more. For FS9 and FSX there are plenty of servo interface cards (for example OpenCockpits servo card) but as far as I know
    for Silent Wings there's no any interface cards or servo gauges available. Only external software gauge provider seems to be Simmeters:
    http://www.simmeters.com/

    I received email from Simmeters sales (it seems that they are still in business although the website is at least partially down) few days ago. The sales person adviced that they are about to launch a servo gauges also. This could be one solution.
    "we are finishing the development of mechanical instruments, also will have instruments for gliding, in a few days will come to RTM on the website."


    I think that the main problem is not controlling the speed of fan itself but to get the actual data out of the sim software somehow.
    Once the data from airspeed indicator is somehow guided to a servo the problem is solved.

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