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    737 Over Head connections.

    Hello every one ..
    For the complete electronic kit for OVH now i need to decide witch supplier i must chose depending on green available and the targeting quality. so I've open cockpit and fly engravity and still I've time to decide and ofcorse your recommendation will be highly appreciated and considers.

    But the question is is this is really easy to do .. so i don't have any kind of knowledge about electronics but some one told me before that i'm capable of doing it
    so is there is any kine of tutorials about where is the wires goes and the wielding points for the on of switches and rotary switches i mean like a guide for noobs ..
    i know maybe this question was asked before but really i searched over and over but i didn't find any so where can i find that kind of step by step in over head connections from welding till IO cards connections to the PC ..

    i know it's not hard question and remember that one day one of you was in my place and have a dream like me to set in his own simulator and fly high but he don't have that much knowledge and he was seeking it )


    thanks for letting me to be one of this cute and big family )
    Love you all

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    Re: 737 Over Head connections.

    24h and no answer ,, it's not that hard question .. ???

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    Re: 737 Over Head connections.

    I'm guessing there isn't a tutorial otherwise you'd have been pointed in that direction...

    The difficulty in answering your question regards wiring the switches and knobs is that it is too vague at the moment. The replies would be varied and numerous and long.

    Once you decide who's kit you are going to use, ask more specific questions in smaller chunks, for example...

    "How do I wire up the landing light switch to this interface panel"?

    I'm sure you'll get help if you ask smaller, more specific questions.

    Regards

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    Re: 737 Over Head connections.

    Well firstly I guess it depends on just how much of your overhead you want to actually interface, do you want just the basics, or do you want advanced control over the whole function of the overhead. Secondly, what software are you using. You may be using software that limits the overhead functionality. Cheaper softwares tend to rule out functions and capabilities allowing the end user to control overhead functions.

    At the end of the day, overhead kits are just 'hardware', hardware that will fill up your panels and allow you to connect them to I/O cards.

    If you had/have a great understanding of the functions of the actual overhead, then you would know what each function does, how it is controlled and how to connect it to your I/O card, because you can convert the operation of each function into either a input pulse or data signal, by this you can slowly build up the functionality of the working overhead until a large proportion of the overhead is fully interfaced.

    Personally, I dont think you will ever find a step by step tutorial on how to wire up an overhead. I think that the hardware you put in an overhead speaks for its self, you interface the hardware because you know what you need the overhead to do, and this is your answer!

    Hope this helps!

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    Re: 737 Over Head connections.

    Dear Sean and Alex ,
    This is great answer cause it's opens my mind on other questions .. like what i want my OVH to do and the answer is i need my over head is full function and simulate every single switch in the PMDG and don't forget that PMDG will release the new 737NG soon so i think it'll have more functions all over the system of the OVH.. so what company i need to go Open cockpits or Fly engravity but i like fly engravity cause the kit include.

    All TS series of sub miniature switches
    all TSL switches
    Red and black safety caps
    pusbuttons
    45 and 30 degree rotary switches
    Aluminium toggle cap holders
    Aluminium aircraft fastneres
    small and large toggle caps
    potmeters
    painted boeing style knobs

    and the software till now i didn't see except SOIC from open cocpits or that one called click 2 mouse .. i know that it's more hard than i think but i want to give it a shot so if you can guide me throw all the process i'll be great full even we can meet on Skype from time to time and see what's the best, what's in my mind, so we can react together .. we r friends and one big family )
    My Skype is (o.razzaz)

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    Re: 737 Over Head connections.

    how about project magenta for the OVH but i heard it's expensive some how .. but if i got project magenta can i connect I/O cards from open cockpits or they have there own systems?

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    Re: 737 Over Head connections.

    so again my question this time is if this combination will gonna work and i need an answer..
    1 electronic kit from fly engravity..
    2 I/O cards from open cockpits
    3 project magenta or SIOC

    so please i need an answer )

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    Re: 737 Over Head connections.

    Quote Originally Posted by ramazoti View Post
    so again my question this time is if this combination will gonna work and i need an answer..
    1 electronic kit from fly engravity..
    2 I/O cards from open cockpits
    If you have an engravity Overhead you can connect the electronics to any kind of IO hardware that you wish, . so yes, you can connect it to OC.

    3 project magenta or SIOC
    I am afraid this is not a possible choice as these are two totally different things. PM is a Glass cockpit suite, and logic software to simulate the systems found in/on a 737. SIOC is the software that the Open cockpits hardware uses to communicate with FSUIPC. So if you are using I/O cards from Open cockpits you have to use SIOC. That leaves you free to choose the glasscockpit/suite software of your choice.

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    Re: 737 Over Head connections.

    Quote Originally Posted by ramazoti View Post
    so again my question this time is if this combination will gonna work and i need an answer..
    1 electronic kit from fly engravity..
    2 I/O cards from open cockpits
    3 project magenta or SIOC

    so please i need an answer )
    1 and 2:
    yes it works

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    The question is not SIOC or PM. That are different things.
    SIOC let's the I/O-Card work.
    PM Systems calculates the logic of the inner Aircraft.
    Both (SIOC and PM) communicate via FSUIPC with the FS-Engine.

    I hope that's a short answer to your short question.

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    Re: 737 Over Head connections.

    so that's mean i need the over head electronic panel from engravity and the i/o cards from open cockpits and sioc and my over head is complete and working?
    this is all what i need .. except the programing of sioc all what i need is yes or no ..

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