Sim Avionics join forces with Flight Deck Solutions!!!

[my737sim]

Also note that it looks like PM teamed up with PMFlight

http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/cont...genta-pmFlight

SO... you have hardware FDS teams up with software Sim Avionics, and software PM team up with hardware pmFlight.

Interesting!

Matt

[Matt Olieman]

Also note that it looks like PM teamed up with PMFlight

http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/cont...genta-pmFlight

SO... you have hardware FDS teams up with software Sim Avionics, and software PM team up with hardware pmFlight.

Interesting!

Matt

pmFlight is ProjectMagenta Same company, this is their Flight Simulator division. Using their own software, the same as being sold to us.

Matt Olieman

[johnwayne]

pmFlight is ProjectMagenta Same company, this is their Flight Simulator division. Using their own software, the same as being sold to us.

Matt Olieman

According to PMflight the software in their own sims is based on what is available to the public but is in fact highly customised with many additions.

[Matt Olieman]

According to PMflight the software in their own sims is based on what is available to the public but is in fact highly customised with many additions.

I think you present a valid point and yes I'm aware what it says, but I'm telling you, the software is the same which is available to you and me, the same software package PM is selling to the public. I hope that clarifies that statement.

I don't know anything about FDS/Sim Avionics software and I will not argue which one is the better. I don't know. But if I have facts contrary to what I read here I will comment.

I think it's wonderful to have a choice of products!!!!!

[my737sim]

I think you present a valid point and yes I'm aware what it says, but I'm telling you, the software is the same which is available to you and me, the same software package PM is selling to the public. I hope that clarifies that statement.

I don't know anything about FDS/Sim Avionics software and I will not argue which one is the better. I don't know. But if I have facts contrary to what I read here I will comment.

I think it's wonderful to have a choice of products!!!!!

Indeed, more choice means more options for everyone. Its really great to see how much is available now. X-plane is doing well. Too bad Aces was canned, but I believe some of the former employees formed their own company. (Although I have not heard any update on that in months)

Matt

[johnwayne]

Thanks Matt , Im trying to decide between the 2 packages at the moment. It seems there is a lot of information good and bad available from many sources on PM and lesser so on SIMA , this of course is natural as SIMA has a much lower user base and little to none in the professional arena which could serve as a flagship. I can only though relay what was stated to me by PM themselves which is that there are additions in their own package based on custom requirements and it took PM software engineers months of work to configure the PMflight Sims. I was left with the impression that PM was very hard to install and hard to configure to the extent that It might be better to pay high fees to have them do it for me. What information I have gathered on SIMA has been on the whole positive , especially in installation and configuration although if this results in a " dumbed down " aircraft I dont know. I am still trying the demo of both.

[a340-th]

Hi Johnwayne,

I just saw this and as I look at your lcoation, it seems you are not so far away from me.... at least relatively compared to the other members , so maybe we might have a chance to exchange views on this more closely.

I will not postulate my personal views about PM here as this is obviously not desired. Suffice it to say that I have been a user of PM from the very first days and that I own 3 (three) more or less complete licenses of PM - 2 for B and one for A. Of which the A one is - of course - in use in my A340 project. If someone came along with some longer term perspective and credible promise to develop further for an airbus application I would switch without a second thought.

PM me if you want further information or assistance.

Erhard in Thailand

[tote_320]

The software is around 1700 USD now

How was it before FDS messed-up with Sim-A ?

[tote_320]

Hahaha kind off Gwyn but no one would figured a raise of more than 200% this is just crazy.

FDS come on give us a break

[Schraddel]

This IS crazy. I am very angry and disapointed about that new pricing too.
Tested SA with my brand new OC MCP and EFIS for 2 weeks and programmed SIOC till all units work and then they change the price from one day to another. Too much for me now.
And the question for me is "for what ?"
1400 € and more for a (for this high price) very small program which is still buggy here and there.
I.e. If I would buy for whatever hardware for that price and would find a malfunction or defect I would
claim and ask for my money.
Sitting here with my new hardware nearly 2000 € and wonder what to do now. The good price of SA was the impulse for me to start cockpit building. Never think about a price-change that high.
I think my last option is PMDG and FSXpand now.
So thumbs down for that kind of extortion.