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    convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    I am quite novise in motionplatforms. Chinese manufacturer do pneumatic an hydraulic units. Units include cylinders, valves, feedback sensors and completed metal parts assembled.one example picture attached. Now what shoud i ask from manufactuer so i could find out how to interface with flightsimulator. 3 dof hydraulic platforms are around 1000 euros in china.New Image..jpg
    Chinese manufaturer mentioned that they are able to produce per customer blueprints too. I wonder if it is worth start developing .Can somebody give webpages where interfacing sofware and hardware info available.

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    Re: convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    Hi,
    It`s all depending on what you know about the basics of hydraulics , pheumatics and electrics,
    if you have no knowledge about these things or know how to calculate forces,speeds ,flows weights etc ,
    then I would advise you to stay away from these platforms and learn the basics first.

    Is it for hobby or do you want to make a living out of it?
    Also you have to calculate shippingcost
    If you want to start with one then ask a forwarder for a LCL shipping quote with all the customsdocumentation.
    It will not be cheap

    But you could ask the manufacturer the W.L.L. for the platform ,
    wich powerpack(pulse steered or continued driven with returnvalve) you have to use to have a certain speed and excelleration, voltage/ amps, depending on loads and other things.
    Do you know the total weight of the cockpit
    will it have a proportional valve(electric driven or by hand) but if the platform is about 1000 euro ,
    I think there will be no proportional valve delivered with the platform.
    Normally a quality electric prop valve Bosch Rexroth or Brevini with pressureswitch will cost around 8 to 1100 euro a piece( but if you are a handy person you could turn a hand driven valve into a electric at lower cost)
    wich cilinders are used high/low pressure,Dimensions, CE certification,Safety-features.
    structure qualitychecks, used materials
    Also if you want to make a living out of it, and sell within the E.E.G you have to comply to the machinedirective 2006, there is a new guideline
    greetz

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    Re: convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    i have done some basic course work on pneumatic and hydrulics, but associated electronic is quite little.What do you mean by abbreviation W.L.L
    there is little bit problem with comunication with chinese. They do not know exact words and my english aint too great either.
    Quate from chinese manufacturer what it includes.
    Our platform includes ,mechanism feedback hydraulic pump station, Servo controlling System

    And strong electricity controlling system, the hydraulic valve is 3 and 5 hydraulic valve



    The sensor is Resistance-type displacement transducer connect with computer is RS 232interface

    those electric proportinal valves aint too expensive in china of course china made.What comes to european certifications most of do have CE certifications. I do not have any plans to do it commercially , but would be great to have cheap alternative to hobbiyst.

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    Re: convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    I would go to the mfg outline your needs and have them create the tech info if they are mfg these then they should know what it is you need it to do. The most important thing they need to know is the weight you expect to mount on top of it. 2500-3000lbs (Assuming a full FSTD) and pitch and roll +-25deg.

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    Re: convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    W.L.L. Working Limit Load
    Its a safety feature that is the sum of certain calculations of strengh of materials used at certain forces.
    The outcome is the maxium load you can use on that platform at certain speed and forces.
    If the platform comes with a 3/5 valve it will not have a proportinal valve, but a valve that works with stages (stop and go`s) .
    If its a plug and play type platform its really cheap, will it have a testcertificate? if not please order one when purchasing a platform.

    I`m building a platform myself, and will be driven by electric/hydraulic system,
    using 12 volt wiper motors for converted hand driven proportinal valves.
    And a powerpack with returnvalve.
    The drivesystem itself will be tested on the testrig where I`m working,
    the platform is finished and mounted ready for the drives.
    I started to look for a electric driven platform but couldn`t find the motorcontrollers and PLC that could handle the load I`m working with.
    For now I still need to figure out some little bits and bobs

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    Re: convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    Hello Simppa may I kindly have the website address for this chinese manufacturer.Many thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by simppa View Post
    I am quite novise in motionplatforms. Chinese manufacturer do pneumatic an hydraulic units. Units include cylinders, valves, feedback sensors and completed metal parts assembled.one example picture attached. Now what shoud i ask from manufactuer so i could find out how to interface with flightsimulator. 3 dof hydraulic platforms are around 1000 euros in china.New Image..jpg
    Chinese manufaturer mentioned that they are able to produce per customer blueprints too. I wonder if it is worth start developing .Can somebody give webpages where interfacing sofware and hardware info available.

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    Re: convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    Has anybody had any success in contacting and/or locating the manufacturer in China?

    We have people who visit occaisionaly and may be able to see what is really on offer!

    Bill.

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    Re: convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    Not yet Sir.still waiting

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    Re: convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    Here's a site I found today that looks pretty interesting. They offer software and hardware controllers as well as plans for "do-it-yourself" motion platforms. I'm in the infant stage of trying to figure this stuff out myself, but would love to move forward with it if there is an affordable way.

    http://buggies.builtforfun.co.uk/Sim/index.html

    Here's another one...

    http://www.simcraft.com/star.html

    One more....

    http://www.d-box.com/gaming/en/produ...eries/gph-120/

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    Re: convert chinese made 3dof movie ride motionplatform to sim use

    I know Ian at http://buggies.builtforfun.co.uk/Sim/index.html

    and he really understands what is needed in an articulated 3DOF platform.
    He has made a new controller board which saves the novice much work, is very cheap and helps get you up and running very quickly!
    His software and the user interface he provides are excellent value.

    Well worth looking at seriously!

    Bill.

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