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    Re: Want to build a descent simulator....help

    Hi there,

    My 2 cents worth of opinion...
    "Want to build a descent simulator...",
    Do yourself a favour and buy some new up to date stuff to reach your goals. You bought a plane so if you want to have some training/test time just to be sure.... don't be miserly on the sim

    kind regards, Nico
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    Re: Want to build a descent simulator....help

    Quote Originally Posted by Skylane View Post
    Hi there,

    My 2 cents worth of opinion...
    "Want to build a descent simulator...",
    Do yourself a favour and buy some new up to date stuff to reach your goals. You bought a plane so if you want to have some training/test time just to be sure.... don't be miserly on the sim

    kind regards, Nico
    I just bought a new super fast computer as follows:
    intel core is-750 processor
    2.66 GH7- 1mb L2 cashe + 8mb
    8 GB DDR3 Ram - 1 TB HDD
    DVD Super multi Drive
    Wireless A/B/G/N HDMI
    !.5 GB Nvidia GeforceGT230
    Windows 7 Premium

    I'm sure this will handle the flight sim X but now I'm wondering
    if the graphics card is good to run multiple monitors or will I
    need another card.
    Someone also mentioned the Nvidia 3D card that uses the video
    glasses as an alternative to the multiple monitors. Is this a good
    alternative to multiple monitors?

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    Re: Want to build a descent simulator....help

    The GT230 comes with 2 DVI outlets. One of 'm is surely Dual_DVI type.

    You could use a large(er) screen LCD TV for the outside and/or virtual cockpit view. That would leave you with a 2nd monitor outlet to use for what you want displayed on a second monitor.
    As you probably know, many views in FS are undockable. You could undock the radiostack and the GPS divice to your second monitor. That would still give you full view over all instruments in the main virtual cockpit view on the main screen.

    If you want less panning and zooming in your (main screen) virtual cockpit you could alway use the Matrox Triple Head 2 go screen splitter on your dual_DVI monitor outlet... lots to be found here at MyCockpit regarding the Matrox Triple and Dual-head 2 go screen split devices.

    The PC you purchased gives you about all you need for a descent and usefull sim-pit.
    There is also a lot here to be found about Tweaking Windows and FS for better performance. Frame rate will not be your problem, I can asure you.

    Kind regards, Nico
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    Re: Want to build a descent simulator....help

    I`m not sure what to think,
    first you say you have bought a waterplane,
    but you don`t want to buy to much equipment to do some training.
    after 1 day you suddenly bought an all singing all dancing computer, but all you want to fly is fs98.
    On another topic you ask for more details for a complete flightsimulator costing about 10k.
    I personnally think you have a big thumb.
    If not I`m truly sorry.
    greetz

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    Re: Want to build a descent simulator....help

    Quote Originally Posted by kermit View Post
    I`m not sure what to think,
    first you say you have bought a waterplane,
    but you don`t want to buy to much equipment to do some training.
    after 1 day you suddenly bought an all singing all dancing computer, but all you want to fly is fs98.
    On another topic you ask for more details for a complete flightsimulator costing about 10k.
    I personnally think you have a big thumb.
    If not I`m truly sorry.
    greetz
    Not sure what "Big Thumb means" but I think I get the idea.
    Like I said, I want to get a realistic IFR trainer similar to the
    172 basic IFR that I "almost have" if the deal doesn't fall through.
    I flew out yesterday then drove 5 hours return to take it for a test
    flight and was very impressed. If I get the trade deal we negotiated
    I will buy for sure.
    As for the computer that I was "about" to buy, my wife talked me out of it, for the time being that is. I spent all of last evening going through all of
    my old PC stuff to discover I still have two pentium 4's , a
    19" square flat screen that I didn't even know that I had, one 15" and one 19" crt. Can I use some of this stuff? I'll have to figure this out because
    I am not up on the entire techno stuff any more. I'm here to ask questions
    and hopefully build somethink to assist in what are my goals. It's not about a BIG THUMB, it's more a state of confusion and I appreciate some of the
    advise that everyone has given. I just have to figure out what I want.

    Oh, and as for the link trainer flight simulator ? It caught my attention as
    to it's capability. I made an inquiry, thats it. I never did get details about
    what it can do. I mean after all, if it could do full motion simulation and was still in working order wouldn't that be a good deal given the amount of money
    I've seen poured into a virtual simulator, especially if it was FAA certified?

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    Re: Want to build a descent simulator....help

    there is a dutch saying( iets uit zijn duim zuigen)in english: making up a story .
    I have read your topic all over again, but I and I think the rest of this topic readers.
    Were under the impression that you already bought the plane and Computer.
    And yes we want to help other members but please tell the story as it is
    greetz

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    Re: Want to build a descent simulator....help

    Quote Originally Posted by kermit View Post
    there is a dutch saying( iets uit zijn duim zuigen)in english: making up a story .
    I have read your topic all over again, but I and I think the rest of this topic readers.
    Were under the impression that you already bought the plane and Computer.
    And yes we want to help other members but please tell the story as it is
    greetz
    I was just trying to simplify my post. Getting into the "true" details of the purchase for the seaplane would have clouded my simple question about
    setting up FS for IFR training . As far as I was concerned the aircraft purchase was a done deal and therefore not relevant to the question I was asking. I received many opinions and suggestions which is what I asked for and appreciate. I still do not clearly know what I want, I am still feeling out where I want to go if at all and how much I should spend if at all.
    If you are not sure what I am asking, please do ask me to clarify instead
    of making some bold assumptions and insults . I will cearly answer any questions if someone asks for the same.

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    Re: Want to build a descent simulator....help

    As for your question,
    you have to know what your budget is, and a timescale.
    Do you want to make instruments and radio`s yourself
    Or will you use TFT screens with instruments, there are Cessna like programs on the market.
    Are you familiar with writing programs or do you need to buy things.

    Can you make a decent instrumentpanel ea are you good with your hands.

    Me for one I dont know much about electronics,

    but give me a welding torch a some spanners I make you B747 in steel/carbon/titanium
    I know a lot (I think) about Hydraulic and airdriven machines and can read technical drawings and make them.

    But when I have to write and load a program I wil sweat all over the place .
    You just have to know were your limits are.
    greetz

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    Re: Want to build a descent simulator....help

    Quote Originally Posted by kermit View Post
    As for your question,
    you have to know what your budget is, and a timescale.
    Do you want to make instruments and radio`s yourself
    Or will you use TFT screens with instruments, there are Cessna like programs on the market.
    Are you familiar with writing programs or do you need to buy things.

    Can you make a decent instrumentpanel ea are you good with your hands.

    Me for one I dont know much about electronics,

    but give me a welding torch a some spanners I make you B747 in steel/carbon/titanium
    I know a lot (I think) about Hydraulic and airdriven machines and can read technical drawings and make them.

    But when I have to write and load a program I wil sweat all over the place .
    You just have to know were your limits are.
    greetz
    I already responded to this but the message lost in cyber space I guess.

    As for a budget, right now I would say $1500 or less. Time is plenty, I am not in a hurry for sure. I will not fly the real thing until spring , but I hope to get something in the works within a month or so. I did buy FSX yesterday so, I
    will start to build around that after the holidays. For now I'm going to set up my old P4 with FS98, the old CH serial port Yoke quadrant and Rudder Peddals. In the new year I will get a new faster computer, some new modern controls and a large main screen. I will use my older 19 " flat screen for instruments and the new24" wide screen for scenery. After that who knows , I may expand a little from there or keep as is, that remains to be seen .

    It appears we have some common skills in that I can weld and build just about
    anything. Not a pro but a good amateur I guess. I built my own Taylorcraft over a six year period and have been flying it since 1998. I'm pretty good with electrical and electronics as well though I have no desire to build up
    a high end flight simulator as others have done. My goal is just to build a
    entry level setup that I may expand on later but, for now I just want to learn
    more about IFR flight since my aircraft will be so equipped.... "if" I buy it.

    I'm no computer techie so any software or hardware will be bought. If I don't have a real aircraft to fly some day or I loose my licence( hopefully to old age) I would consider a VERY advanced flight simular but, not while I have
    the real thing at my disposal.

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