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    FSPassengers X

    Hey Everyone,

    For those of you who have been waiting for FS Passengers program to be made available for FSX (like me), the new program is now out as of December 22, 2008. I used FS9 version and thought it was an added plus, but I'm looking forward to installing it for FSX.

    Here is a link to the website:

    http://www.fspassengers.com/

    John

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    From what I've read about the FS9 version, it was always like Big Brother watching over your shoulder.

    No Captain's Descretion what so ever. I've seen the reports. Some from just crappy pilots, but others with legitimate deviations and other circumstances that the program cannot take into consideration. I know this from real-time ACARS flight reports from within the airline. The flight paths and flight data were also recorded on Google Earth for analysis. I was the CEO of Air France for quite some time and I've seen a lot of good pilots and I've seen some that should delete FS from their computer and never touch an FS again.

    Wind shear, gust, an unexpected go-around, a missed approach due to WX, or mechanical failure, can all ding you for a legitemate problem. The list is long.

    When I fly, I know when I do it right, and I know when I've screwed up. I don't need a program telling me I have without considering the circumstances.
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    Hopefully things have gotten better?

    Hopefully, they have fixed some things since FS9, but I have yet to check it out. I just downloaded the new demo version so I can look into it. You're right about the FS9 version, there are things that didn't fly right (pun intended).

    However, I mainly liked it for the cabin immersion factor. The flight attendant and passenger voice/wave files, etc. For the most part these played on the correct cues...

    John

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    The cabin crew and announcements would be cool.

    I had that in my 727 from a freeware program at AVSIM, and then downloaded it again to my newest FS PC, but I forgot how to install it.
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    Now it says I can load this for any plane, how do you think it will get on with my Christmas pressie.... the Hawker Hunter

    Always room in the bomb bay, hehe.


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    Michael you were CEO for AIR FRANCE?

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    Yes, I started as a pilot for Delta, and when the owner of Delta wanted to start an overseas airline he chose Air France. I started as the CP for the 727 program, and eventually moved up.

    It wasn't going anywhere though with only a couple of hundred pilots and fraudulent flight plans filed. There were maybe 25-30 pilots actively flying. I tried for two years to increase membership, but it wasn't happening.

    The biggest reasons I think were that European pilots were under the inpression it was really based in France and not the US, and the US pilots didn't want to fly European routes. They also didn't like some of the flight rules and considered sloppy flying the norm.

    This was supposed to be more of an adult VA and we took our flying a bit more seriously than most were up to. It started out with adults, but ended up being just another kiddie airline for the arcade crowd.

    The Google Earth ACARS was a powerful program. We could tell if the procedures were flown correctly, landing speeds and pitch, flap schedules, fuel aboard, altitudes flown, airways selected and so on. It was a custom application written by the owner of the airlines. The guy was a wiz.
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    Smile Suggestion for Virtual Airlines

    Michael,

    I hope you have found another VA to fly with? It's certainly great to fly alone, but the VA's (okay, a few) do have some merits. Recently, I joined Boston Virtaul ATC VA and found it to be really good.

    These folks have a custom program for the ATC's called FlightDesk that they use to insure pilots follow the rules. Plus, they have some good updated scenerys for the Boston area. When you fly with them you do get some good ATC services. Usually on Tuesday's they have a lot of pilots flying as well as multiple ATC's (more then just Tower controllers).

    Finally, I give them a lot of credit for reducing the kiddie stuff... and for the younger pilots in here at MyCockpit.org that are 13, 14, etc; I'm not trying to offend you at all. However, if you are/were learning to fly a "real" plane you would have to follow the FAA rules no matter how old you are.

    Even though were talking about Flight Simulation, it's still a very wise thing not to learn bad habits early on, so if someday you do become a real pilot you won't have that urge to dive bomb the field... uh...unless, you become a fighter/bomber pilot for real.

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    As I became more serious about my simulator I lost interest in trying to run a serious airline. I've been gone a year now and just went to have a look at the site.

    Same ol', same 'ol. Nothing's changed. Still low roster, average of 10 flights a month, members that have been on the roster for months without one flight flown.

    I don't have any interest in joining, let alone running another VA.
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    The latest issue of CP magazine has a very favorable review of the Hifi Simulations "XPAX" which works with both FS9 & FSX (despite its name). I haven't used any such addon so I don't know how they compare but it might be worth a look.

    http://www.hifisim.com/xpax.php

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