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    Online Flight Tour #1: KDEN - KSLC Sat. Oct. 11

    MyCockpits FSHost Server Online Group Flight #1

    Denver International Airport to Salt Lake City International Airport

    Commercial / Corporate Jet Aircraft

    IFR FL280 378 NM Approx. Cruise 340 knots

    Estimated Actual Flight Time approx. 1:05 minutes

    No ATC Provided : Utilize simulated Unicomm procedures via MyCockpits Teamspeak Channel

    Saturday, October 11, 2008 23:00 GMT



    Departures and Arrivals

    Flight Crew Pre-flight / Passenger Boarding at the Gates:

    Saturday, October 11, 2008
    (departure parking along taxiway BS at Concourse B)

    23:00 GMT
    7:00 PM US Eastern Daylight Savings Time
    6:00 PM US Central Daylight Savings Time
    5:00 PM US Mountain Daylight Savings Time
    4:00 PM US Pacific Daylight Savings Time

    8:00 AM Sun., October 12, 2008 Perth, Australia


    Off Blocks / Pushback Time: 23:30 GMT

    Approx. Arrival Time: 00:45 GMT Sunday, October 12, 2008

    On Blocks / Arrival At Gates: approx. 01:00 GMT
    (arrival parking located at Terminal One)


    Suggested Add-on Scenery

    Freeware

    Denver International Airport
    Gary Widup and Darko Stamenic’s kden2004installer.zip at AVSIM

    Salt Lake City International
    Gary Widup’s kslc9v2.zip at AVSIM

    Payware

    Imaginesim’s KDEN
    ?????????? KSLC



    Airport Information Alpha

    Departure Airport

    Denver International Airport (KDEN)

    Airport Services
    Fuel available: 100 100LL JET-A MOGAS
    Parking: hangars
    Airframe service: MAJOR
    Powerplant service: MAJOR
    Bottled oxygen: HIGH
    Bulk oxygen: HIGH

    Airport Information

    http://www.flydenver.com/

    http://www.airnav.com/airport/KDEN

    Airport Diagram

    http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0810/09077AD.PDF

    SID: Rockies6.EKR departure

    http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0810/09077ROCKIES.PDF

    Expected Departure Runway

    7


    Arrival Airport

    Salt Lake City International Airport (KSLC)

    Airport Services
    Fuel available: 100 100LL 80 JET-A1+
    Parking: hangars and tiedowns
    Airframe service: MAJOR
    Powerplant service: MAJOR
    Bottled oxygen: HIGH/LOW
    Bulk oxygen: HIGH/LOW

    Airport Information

    http://www.slcairport.com/

    http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSLC

    Airport Diagram

    http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0810/00365AD.PDF

    STAR: (arrival runway 34L)

    SPANE4.MVA

    http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0810/00365SPANE.PDF

    Expected Arrival Runway

    34 Left 341 Mag.
    Cat III, ILS/DME 111.90 MHz
    Identification code: I-UUH .. ..- ..- ....

    ILS Runway 34L

    http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0810/00365IL34L.PDF

    ILS Runway 34L Cat III

    http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0810/00365I34LC3.PDF

    Arrival Parking
    We’ll be parking at gates at Terminal One


    Alternate Airport

    Hill Air Force Base (KHIF)
    Distance 20 NM at bearing 001 degrees

    Airport Information

    http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHIF

    Airport Diagram

    http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0810/00296AD.PDF

    Expected Alternate Runway

    14 139 Mag.
    ILS: 109.90 MHz
    Identification code: I-HIF .. .... .. ..-.

    ILS Runway 14

    http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0810/00296I14.PDF


    Simulation Setup Details Checklist

    Perform: computer and router open ports check (important!)
    (http://www.chocolatesoftware.com/fshost/FSPortTest.exe)

    Teamspeak: Use MyCockpits TS server
    connect using your MyCockpits username and password
    utilize PTT, not voice activated

    Set Multiplayer: Other players see your animations
    You see other players animations
    Port 23456

    Set Framerates: locked at maximum of 22 fps (important!)

    Set Weather: Real World Weather (local departure airport), 15 minute updates

    Set Time: Real World Time (local departure airport), as set by FSHost server

    Set Crash Detection: OFF (important!)

    Set Departure Gate: We’ll all be parking along taxiway BS at Concourse B of KDEN

    Connect to FSHost: Use aircraft’s callsign plus name (Example:United 6565 -John)

    Mycockpit FS Server IP is 24.93.12.155 Port 23456

    Once Connected: Open chat box

    Paste the following (with necessary personal substitutions in red) into the chat window......

    +fp Your aircraft Call sign Your aircraft make/model/flight # IFR FLyour selected flight level KDEN.DEN.ZIMMR.RLG.EKR.VEL.MTU.THISL.SPANE.BOAGY.FFU.DRYVE.CHHIP.KSLC

    Hit "enter". Your flightplan will auto open.

    When flight is completed and you are parked at the gate: Open chat window

    Type "-fp" into the chat window and hit "enter".

    Your flightplan will auto close.




    Flightplan

    KDEN.DEN.ZIMMR.RLG.EKR.VEL.MTU.THISL.SPANE.BOAGY.FFU.DRYVE.CHHIP.KSLC

    Squawkbox plan format

    KDEN:KSLC:280
    VEN:39.812500:-104.660600:0:0:0:274
    F:ZIMMR:40.029450:-105.665300:0:0:0:255
    I:RLG:40.002500:-106.442200:0:0:0:261
    I:EKR:40.067220:-107.924700:0:0:0:271
    V:VEL:40.378890:-109.493100:0:0:0:230
    I:MTU:40.149170:-110.127500:0:0:0:255
    F:THISL:40.136390:-111.214200:0:0:0:254
    F:SPANE:40.130280:-111.548300:0:0:0:281
    F:BOAGY:40.242500:-111.851900:0:0:0:281
    I:FFU:40.274720:-111.940300:0:0:0:315
    FRYVE:40.419170:-112.049400:0:0:0:342
    F:CHHIP:40.619170:-112.061400:0:0:0:28
    F:FIX 13:40.681140:-111.985200:0:0:0:341
    F:FIX 14:40.720820:-111.989500:0:0:0:340
    F:FIX 15:40.749940:-111.992800:0:0:0:341
    F:FIX 16:40.774770:-111.995500:0:0:0:30


    FS2004 plan format

    [Flightplan]
    AppVersion=9.1.40901
    title=KDEN to KSLC
    description=KDEN, KSLC
    type=IFR
    routetype=1
    cruising_altitude=28000
    departure_id=KDEN, N39* 50.45', W104* 42.32', +005430.00
    departure_position=07
    destination_id=KSLC, N40* 47.30', W111* 58.67', +004226.00
    departure_name=Denver Intl
    destination_name=Salt Lake City Intl
    alternate_name=
    waypoint.0=, KDEN, , KDEN, A, N39* 50.45', W104* 42.32', +005430.00,
    waypoint.1=KK, DEN, , DEN 117.90, V, N39* 48.75', W104* 39.63', +000000.00,
    waypoint.2=KK, ZIMMR, , ZIMMR, I, N40* 01.77', W105* 39.92', +000000.00,
    waypoint.3=KK, RLG, , RLG, I, N40* 00.15', W106* 26.53', +000000.00,
    waypoint.4=KK, EKR, , EKR, I, N40* 04.03', W107* 55.48', +000000.00,
    waypoint.5=KK, VEL, , VEL 108.20, V, N40* 22.73', W109* 29.58', +000000.00,
    waypoint.6=KK, MTU, , MTU, I, N40* 08.95', W110* 07.65', +000000.00,
    waypoint.7=KK, THISL, , THISL, I, N40* 08.18', W111* 12.85', +000000.00,
    waypoint.8=KK, SPANE, , SPANE, I, N40* 07.82', W111* 32.90', +000000.00,
    waypoint.9=KK, BOAGY, , BOAGY, I, N40* 14.55', W111* 51.12', +000000.00,
    waypoint.10=KK, FFU, , FFU, I, N40* 16.48', W111* 56.42', +000000.00,
    waypoint.11=KK, DRYVE, , DRYVE, I, N40* 25.15', W112* 02.97', +000000.00,
    waypoint.12=KK, CHHIP, , CHHIP, I, N40* 37.15', W112* 03.68', +000000.00,
    waypoint.13=KK, Fix 13, , Fix 13, I, N40* 40.87', W111* 59.11', +000000.00,
    waypoint.14=KK, Fix 14, , Fix 14, I, N40* 43.25', W111* 59.37', +000000.00,
    waypoint.15=KK, Fix 15, , Fix 15, I, N40* 45.00', W111* 59.57', +000000.00,
    waypoint.16=KK, Fix 16, , Fix 16, I, N40* 46.49', W111* 59.73', +000000.00,
    waypoint.17=, KSLC, , KSLC, A, N40* 47.30', W111* 58.67', +004226.00,

    [FSC]
    DepartAPCode=KDEN
    DepartNum=0
    DepartID=07
    DepartType=Rwy
    DestAPCode=KSLC
    RouteType=1
    SID=ROCKI4.EKR
    STAR=SPANE4.MTU
    WP=1,VOR,DEN,DENVER,39.8125,-104.6606,117.90,173.8426,11.201,3,3151
    WP=2,Fix,ZIMMR,ZIMMR,40.0295,-105.6653,0.00,286.0465,11.800,3,48887
    WP=3,Int,RLG,KREMMLING,40.0025,-106.4422,113.80,267.6568,12.299,3,22731
    WP=4,Int,EKR,MEEKER,40.0672,-107.9247,115.20,273.7401,12.701,3,7857
    WP=5,VOR,VEL,VERNAL,40.3789,-109.4931,108.20,285.0941,13.503,1,3271
    WP=6,Int,MTU,MYTON,40.1492,-110.1275,112.70,244.8210,13.898,2,17609
    WP=7,Fix,THISL,THISL,40.1364,-111.2142,0.00,269.4692,14.200,2,43238
    WP=8,Fix,SPANE,SPANE,40.1303,-111.5483,0.00,268.7370,14.200,2,41606
    WP=9,Fix,BOAGY,BOAGY,40.2425,-111.8519,0.00,295.9176,14.200,2,4517
    WP=10,Int,FFU,FAIRFIELD,40.2747,-111.9403,116.60,295.5755,14.200,2,8961
    WP=11,Fix,DRYVE,DRYVE,40.4192,-112.0494,0.00,330.0934,14.601,2,10815
    WP=12,Fix,CHHIP,CHHIP,40.6192,-112.0614,0.00,357.4056,14.601,2,7071
    WP=13,Fix,Fix 13,Fix 13,40.6811,-111.9852,0.00,42.9850,14.200,1,0
    WP=14,Fix,Fix 14,Fix 14,40.7208,-111.9895,0.00,355.2499,14.200,1,0
    WP=15,Fix,Fix 15,Fix 15,40.7499,-111.9928,0.00,355.1251,14.200,1,0
    WP=16,Fix,Fix 16,Fix 16,40.7748,-111.9955,0.00,355.3787,14.200,1,0

    (Cut and paste above into your appropriate flight sim directory)

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    In order for anything other than default aircraft to be displayed correctly to others in multiplayer, you have to have the exact same aircraft installed in your sim as the person's plane you are viewing.

    That being said, for this flight (above) I will be flying the following aircraft:

    Jon Murchison BAe 146-200

    http://63.217.28.218/files/47jets/bae1462k4.zip

    In the following repaint:

    United Express

    http://www.simviation.com/files/47jets/1462ue.zip


    If you are interested, please post a link to the planes you will be flying. For payware planes, just indicate the aircraft.

    best,

    ...................john

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    Hey John,
    There is a 90% chance i'll join you guys, do have a Martial Arts class to teach at 4 though, so hmmmmm i'll have to juggle abit with my black belts possibly. Could you send me exact idiot proof instructions to joining up with you and team speak etc in my PM. Thanks John for setting this up. Ill probably be flying a A320 Talk soon.

    Tim

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    I wish I could join you guys, but I'm not set up for on-line yet.

    You'll get better milage if you push up the altitude to FL320-FL340. That's not too high for a nearly 400 NM trip. 'Course that depends on what you're flying too.
    Boeing Skunk Works
    Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST!

    We don't need no stinkin' ETOPS!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Carter View Post
    I wish I could join you guys, but I'm not set up for on-line yet.

    You'll get better milage if you push up the altitude to FL320-FL340. That's not too high for a nearly 400 NM trip. 'Course that depends on what you're flying too.

    Michael,

    True. The Flight Level above is just a "general target".....nothing fixed about it. Your personal airline you work for will dictate your exact flightplan level based on careful analysis of cost factors .

    One consideration in this kind of group flight is the aircraft that people are flying. Some people might have a ceiling at about FL300. I think some regional jets and corporate jets don't go as high as the 737, 747, A320 and A340 crowd. My BAe 146-200 is not happy at FL320..... and at that level and Mach .70......... it makes "coffin corner" looming VERY close.

    In fact, just before the flight I will be posting the Active Sky "forecast winds aloft" METAR report here in this thread so that everyone can see what various FLs winds will likely look like. It works slick for FLCH,...and is pretty darn accurate. I've saved fuel and time a number of times using that function of ActiveSky 6.5. It SHOULD match up with folks using the default FS real world weather as long as they have "download winds aloft" checked off in the sim.

    So on this flight some folks might be higher and some might be lower. As in the real world. The more imporant parts are the SID and STAR....and even that is flexible as **** .

    At some point if these group flights start to get popular...... we WILL have to address the issus of needing ATC to make everything smooth. Nice problem to have...... so hopefully it WILL eventually happen.

    best,

    ..................john

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    Quote Originally Posted by warvet View Post
    Hey John,
    There is a 90% chance i'll join you guys, do have a Martial Arts class to teach at 4 though, so hmmmmm i'll have to juggle abit with my black belts possibly. Could you send me exact idiot proof instructions to joining up with you and team speak etc in my PM. Thanks John for setting this up. Ill probably be flying a A320 Talk soon.

    Tim
    Tim,

    Look at the top of the forum page here for the link to setting up a Teamspeak account. Follow the directions .

    To check your ports situation use the link posted above for a little program. Go to the ChocolateSoftware website forums for more info on opening ports. I'll post another link about this "port" issue shortly. THIS is the great boogie man in fs multiplayer. And if you have a router... it gets more complicated.

    As to connecting to the server, more on that in a while too.

    best,

    ......................john

    PS: EXACTLY which A320.... please post a link to the exact aircraft downloads (unless it is payware).

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    NOTAM

    Current General Weather Forecast in Denver, Colorado

    http://maps.avnwx.com/?address=kden&...67317750000001

    http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...2=-104.873&e=1

    http://www.weather.com/outlook/trave...er/local/DEN:9


    Current General Weather Forecast in Salt Lake City, Utah

    http://maps.avnwx.com/?address=KSLC&...-111.977773056

    http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...d2=-111.89&e=0

    http://www.weather.com/outlook/trave...rchbox_localwx


    Current Airport Delays

    http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/plaintext.html


    Current METARs

    Denver International Airport KDEN


    2008/10/11 17:53 UTC

    The observation is:

    KDEN 111753Z 12010KT 10SM OVC006 04/03 A2995 RMK AO2 SLP133 T00440028 10044 20022 58018


    Salt Lake City International Airport KSLC


    2008/10/11 17:53 UTC

    The observation is:

    KSLC 111753Z VRB04KT 10SM BKN017 OVC023 04/01 A2962 RMK AO2 RAE43 SLP020 P0001 60001 T00440011 10061 20022 53012

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    Wish I could........

    John, I am impressed by the amount of effort you have put into setting this up, and the great attention to detail. I am at work making electricity this week, so I can't join in. I hope others can reap the benefits of your efforts. Enjoy captains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak49er View Post
    John, I am impressed by the amount of effort you have put into setting this up, and the great attention to detail.
    AK49er,

    Thanks!

    I just hope there are some people who end up participating. Lots of views on this thread.... but not a lot of responses.

    However, it is the first one... so I am not really expecting a lot.

    We will see..........

    Sorry you can't make it. We'll all burn up some of your electricity powering our pits.

    best,

    ...............john

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    I hope some show up too. Wish I was one of them. No cabling to get to the computer though.

    Sort of crappy in Denver, and not much better in Salt Lake.
    Boeing Skunk Works
    Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST!

    We don't need no stinkin' ETOPS!



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