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    You're not the only one, Nic, I am using PM CDU and PM RCDU together with Engravity CDU hardware - no messages in scratchpad either!
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    Didnt we allready discuss in the beginning of this thread that the hardware is capable of displaying them (see pmdg, level-d, precision simulator, etc), but that PM just does not implement it ?

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    Yes Stef that's right. But PM says it *should* be working - I've been in communication with PM support on this in the past month. So I can only assume that it is implemented. And given that other users are reporting that it does work (think they are FDS CDU users?) then it must be implemented, but something is going wrong in between.

    Strange though - I can't see scratchpad messages even on the software CDU. Wierd .
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicD View Post
    Yes Stef that's right. But PM says it *should* be working - I've been in communication with PM support on this in the past month. So I can only assume that it is implemented. And given that other users are reporting that it does work (think they are FDS CDU users?) then it must be implemented, but something is going wrong in between.

    Strange though - I can't see scratchpad messages even on the software CDU. Wierd .
    That is weird...because it IS implemented in the software (not all, but many). At least, i have seen it in the past. Havent looked at the software in ages.
    However, i dont recall having them EVER seen on the hardware cdu. So hence my conclusion that it isnt implemented in the code to send it to the engravity cdu. If it is, there must be a few bits wrong, because i really have never seen any scratchpad messages in the hardware cdu.

    But really strange that you dont see them in the hardware either.

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    Missing FMC/CDU message

    Hi all,

    I don´t see any messages on the scratchpad either. Usually when Engravity msg light shows up, I go via INIT page to MESSAGES. Sometimes I see a note "unknown message" or something like this.
    First time I noticed this when using the 737-800.
    Any comments on this ?

    regards

    Bernhard (LSZH)

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    Unhappy same here

    msg light lights up on my Flyengravity CDU, but no messages, this is strange...

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    I know this is a little off the topic but all I keep reading about in relation to PM is all of it's faults or missing info. I'm wondering why individuals pay $1,000.00 plus for a piece of software that isn't fully functional, especially if you can set up PMDG as Ian Sissons has done and have it pretty much 100%, or use other systems that have the overhead logic as well.

    Would like to know your opinions.

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    Thats an easy answer Rob.

    It doesnt exist any 100% solution for simulation. No addons for FS has 100% functionality. PMDG 737 does not have aft overhead. PM has at least some of this functional. nd probably more to come.

    Lack of messages in CDU is mostly a settings issue which has to be sorted out from the end user, because we all have different equipment to run our simulators.

    Look at it from the bright side. The professional simulators which cost multiple millions, dont have the option to fly at more than 24000 airports, and it is not compatible with Vatsim/Ivao or networks with realtime controllers and realtime traffic.

    So for many purposes, our simulators offer better training to future pilots even if some functionality is lacking and some faults are represented. Also the multi-million machines have faults.

    So I think that a 1500 USD PM suite is a good compromise for a home-builder to get it as real as possible for reasonable money. Also Ian has issues that are not easily solved with using PMDG for a simulator. He have spent a huge amount of hours to make this work, so spending some money on PM is what we can choose to save lots of researching.

    Whatever software option we choose, it will always be issues to solve

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    Not to mention, you can't get any 7-segment displays or led indications from the PMDG. So in order to light lights in the overhead you need to get very creative, as you can't pull that information from the PMDG.

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    Another reason is that when PM came out there was no PMDG. And then when PMDG came out there where no computers that could run multiple monitors to get all the PMDG stuff on different screens. The power to do this at home has come only within the last couple of years. You have to keep in mond that compermise is always needed in cockpit building.
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