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    Thanks Rene, i missed the
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    part ! My bad

    Really dont understand why it doesnt though, because the protocol is extremely simple and its very easy to incorporate. Not different than any of the other lines !

    But back to topic: the missing messages in PM.

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    That's strange... I've never seen "Drag required" on the PM CDU, and I have been looking for it. Must be differences between our setups or something?
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    Hi Nic,
    that is what I've tried to describe:There are NO messages in the scratchpad, this is NOT hardware related, this is according to Project Magenta NOT implemented in their CDU or RCDU Program. Therefore we DON'T see any of these messages in our CDUs!

    So, if "Eu" does, I would be surprised!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicD View Post
    That's strange... I've never seen "Drag required" on the PM CDU, and I have been looking for it. Must be differences between our setups or something?
    I see it all the time in my aircraft.

    Especially when I am past tod and late on the decent

    keep in mind though, I have modified my cdu file for my aircraft. The term is actually " DRAG REQUIRED" it is there.

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    Hmmm... thanks guys... the plot thickens! I'll do some more ini file investigation and see what I can find.

    eudoniga - could you advise what CDU version and aircraft file you are using, and, a list of the CDU messages that you do ordinarily see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicD View Post
    Hmmm... thanks guys... the plot thickens! I'll do some more ini file investigation and see what I can find.

    eudoniga - could you advise what CDU version and aircraft file you are using, and, a list of the CDU messages that you do ordinarily see?
    I would take a picture of my cdu if I could get to it right now, but sitting here thinking about it I think it says "MORE DRAG REQUIRED"

    When I get it running again, As I am in the middle of a rebuild, I will take a picture of it.

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    CDU Messages

    i have to support stef here.... the CDU cannot display messages if they're not being sent. i am using the engravity cdu with the PMDG's own instruments. all these messages appear in the scratchpad, so if the PMDG is sending the messages and the CDU is displaying them, then the problem has to be in the software delivery.
    so come on PM, give the lads a break (oh and the messages).
    regards from wales..... ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicD View Post
    eudoniga - could you advise what CDU version and aircraft file you are using, and, a list of the CDU messages that you do ordinarily see?
    Sure !!!

    My CDU ver is 394, that's the latest actually available.

    My CDU aircraft type is the 737-700 by Steve Reyling, downloaded from the PM site, to which I made some enhancement (basically it was split into two versions, so that it could display the new style EFIS or the classic PFD/ND).

    The MSGs that I usually read on my CDU are:

    WAYPOINT ABOVE CRZ ALT: Occasionally; I've never figured out what's this, maybe the flight planner's fault ... but it doesn't influence navigation one single dime !

    NO ACTIVE ROUTE: after every landing, when RTE data are automatically flushed.

    USING RESERVE FUEL: quite often and in short final, if my fuel calc was accurate enough; in fact I expect the trip fuel to be gone by touchdown, with HOLDING (3000 Lbs)+ALTERNATE (variable)+MINIMUM LANDING FUEL (2000 Lbs) being still there as the reserve.

    DRAG REQUIRED: like I explained a few posts before.

    UNABLE CRZ ALT: Seen it once or twice, when I entered too high a flight level and too short a route ... lack of a good flight planner !!!

    There might be a few minor ones, but frankly I cannot recall now ... I'd rather have the FMC Guide here !!!

    regards,
    Eugenio.
    p.s. to René: you don't get to see MSGs on the scratchpad unless this option is made active via dedicated setting in the DISPLAY settings of the CDU MENU ... the other way, that is what you have, is that MSGs are kept in a dedicated page, accessible via INDEX menu.
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    Happy landings and always three greens !!

    Eu

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    p.s. to René: you don't get to see MSGs on the scratchpad unless this option is made active via dedicated setting in the DISPLAY settings of the CDU MENU ... the other way, that is what you have, is that MSGs are kept in a dedicated page, accessible via INDEX menu.
    Thanks a lot, I'll give it a try!
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    Exclamation Two more of those present, which I have seen for sure

    "INSUFFICIENT FUEL" when the predicted fuel at destination goes below zero ... oh oh !!!

    "POSITION UNCERTAINTY": in reality I guess it has to do with loss of IRS alignment and similar; in simulation, the CDU doesn't see - thanks to WideFS - where the a/C is ... maybe FS down or not yet started.
    Happy landings and always three greens !!

    Eu

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