Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    10+ Posting Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Cockpit
    Posts
    10
    Contribute If you enjoy reading the
    content here, click the below
    image to support MyCockpit site.
    Click Here To Contribute To Our Site

    Question How to build inst panels?

    Hi

    I am just starting on this pit building thing, and still doing my researches and reading homework.

    I have seen many guys using acrylic/plexiglas for their inst panels. My question is how to do the writing on those panels specially if you want to back light it later?

    - Do you laser engrave it after you paint the board it in black?
    - Do you print the face of the panel on some transparent material (i.e paper or foil) and then just stick it on the board? Would not that be so obvious and unreal-looking, you know it may got wrinkled or so?
    - or is their something I am missing?

  2. #2
    1000+ Poster - Fantastic Contributor Tomlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Waycross, GA
    Posts
    1,188
    Contribute If you enjoy reading the
    content here, click the below
    image to support MyCockpit site.
    Click Here To Contribute To Our Site

    Most folks do what your first option is, in various different ways. However, I believe that Gwen (Westozy) has done your option two, and his sim looks great! Check out his posts and site and pics. It's definately more affordable than having them laser engraved, but then again, it's a much more complex process too and it does allow for backlighting.
    Eric Tomlin-
    Learjet 45 Builder
    www.flightlevel180.org

  3. #3
    2000+ Poster - Never Leaves the Sim Michael Carter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Southern Illinois, USA
    Posts
    3,147
    Contribute If you enjoy reading the
    content here, click the below
    image to support MyCockpit site.
    Click Here To Contribute To Our Site

    I've tried option two myself. But I went a step further and installed backlighting right into the panel itself. It works well, but the bulbs get warm enough to heat the adhesive and the paper starts buckling.

    I might try printing on acetate next time. Then again, I might forget the whole thing and just buy the real panel.
    Boeing Skunk Works
    Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST!

    We don't need no stinkin' ETOPS!



    Powered by FS9 & BOEING

  4. #4
    2000+ Poster - Never Leaves the Sim Trevor Hale's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    2,432
    Contribute If you enjoy reading the
    content here, click the below
    image to support MyCockpit site.
    Click Here To Contribute To Our Site

    Hi,

    I print using my Ink Jet Printer on HIGH QUALITY, with Shiny Photo Paper, then I spray Adhesive on the Plexi Glass and apply the paper to the back. After it dries, I drill the Plexi and install my switches. works really good. But it is important that you print Black background for the panels, to block the light.

    Thats my cost effective method, and works quite well.

    Trev
    ________________________
    Trevor Hale

  5. #5
    10+ Posting Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Cockpit
    Posts
    10
    Contribute If you enjoy reading the
    content here, click the below
    image to support MyCockpit site.
    Click Here To Contribute To Our Site

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomlin View Post
    Most folks do what your first option is, in various different ways. However, I believe that Gwen (Westozy) has done your option two, and his sim looks great! Check out his posts and site and pics. It's definately more affordable than having them laser engraved, but then again, it's a much more complex process too and it does allow for backlighting.
    Thank you Eric. So The engraving should be done after the painting? Any recommended paint type?



    Quote Originally Posted by Boeing Skunk Works View Post
    I've tried option two myself. But I went a step further and installed backlighting right into the panel itself. It works well, but the bulbs get warm enough to heat the adhesive and the paper starts buckling.

    I might try printing on acetate next time. Then again, I might forget the whole thing and just buy the real panel.
    Thanx mate. I am thinking to have EL sheets for backlight. So how do you print the lines and texts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Hale View Post
    Hi,

    I print using my Ink Jet Printer on HIGH QUALITY, with Shiny Photo Paper, then I spray Adhesive on the Plexi Glass and apply the paper to the back. After it dries, I drill the Plexi and install my switches. works really good. But it is important that you print Black background for the panels, to block the light.

    Thats my cost effective method, and works quite well.

    Trev
    Thanks alot Trev. Wouldn't the white of the photo paper itself block the light as well? I mean the original white color of the paper where the texts and lines will be

  6. #6
    2000+ Poster - Never Leaves the Sim Trevor Hale's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    2,432
    Contribute If you enjoy reading the
    content here, click the below
    image to support MyCockpit site.
    Click Here To Contribute To Our Site

    Nope, Everything that I have any other color on it (except black) lets the light through evenly. Have a look at my website or Photo gallery pictures, and you will see what I mean.

    Trev
    ________________________
    Trevor Hale

  7. #7
    150+ Forum Groupie
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Vancouver
    Posts
    215
    Contribute If you enjoy reading the
    content here, click the below
    image to support MyCockpit site.
    Click Here To Contribute To Our Site

    Check out my gallery pics of instrument panels and annunciators for the inkjet method. I used two sheets of acetate stuck together with double sided tape. it also occured to me that you can then mask the area that has backlighting, crudely with masking tape, then spray the remainder with black paint. The only light that will be allowed through will be the backlit area plus a very small amount of leakage through the inked area on the acetate. I haven't tried this yet but I'm pretty sure it would work well.

    HINT: if you spray the ink side of a printed acetate with clear lacquer, it appears to increase opacity as well as protecting the surface. I found I could use less layers using this method, than without, making it easier and lower cost.
    VANCOUVER
    Jet fighter / single pilot sim, plus thinking of a 777 as a secondary sim.

  8. #8
    150+ Forum Groupie
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Berkshire, UK
    Posts
    166
    Contribute If you enjoy reading the
    content here, click the below
    image to support MyCockpit site.
    Click Here To Contribute To Our Site

    Hi All,
    I discovered this product the other day when a student was using it to make dials etc for a car panel!

    http://www.letraset.com/craft/shopco...ype=SafmatInfo

    I t may be of some use in panel building!!!

    Bill.

  9. Thanks Paul Thomas thanked for this post
  10. #9
    75+ Posting Member Paul Thomas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Sotra. Norway
    Posts
    79
    Contribute If you enjoy reading the
    content here, click the below
    image to support MyCockpit site.
    Click Here To Contribute To Our Site

    Thumbs up

    Thanks a lot Bill. This might be a great idea for making panels "the easy way". I think this is well worth trying.

Similar Threads

  1. 737 Panels, Build your own, Can anyone help?
    By Spoceto1003 in forum General Builder Questions All Aircraft Types
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 01-22-2009, 05:55 PM
  2. panels.. panels GA & Heli
    By Jackpilot in forum General Builder Questions All Aircraft Types
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-01-2008, 05:01 PM
  3. Panels
    By Radar in forum Where to Start Building a Home Cockpit
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 04-22-2007, 03:51 PM
  4. Standby Inst.
    By Trevor Hale in forum PM General Q & A
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 03-13-2007, 09:43 AM