Navigraph airac cycle 0710

[michelmvd]

Gentlemen,
One remark - about your previous entries about ways to enter route - in very shorts words. The CDU is there to HELP AND ASSIST the pilot. All possibilities to enter route - change SIDS/STARS - WAYPOINT , fixes etc are available. I only can talk for the B744, but it is common practice these days to enter the complete route inclusive SID and STAR during preflight.
Of course afterwards it is perfectly possible to change the SID, the t/o rwy, the STAR or the landing rwy afterwards during the entire flight. Also add or delete waypoints, change routes portions etc.
This is the reality.
B. Rgds
Michel

[michelmvd]

I did some other testflight these days and I must confirm that also the AIRAC 0710 isn't bug free.
I did the test with following routes
EBOS/GMMN (Ostend to Casablanca)
Routing EBOS MAK L607 GOLEX Y50 CIV UN872 KOVIN UY317 RESMI UN857 BEBIX UM129 LMG UN857 PPN UN10 VASUM UN857 HIJ UN10 SVL UN857 ABODA UR72 LAKAM
SID MAK2S STAR LKM2A

Bugs :

- received RUNTIME ERROR 9 / subcript out of range when entering UN857 after SVL (KORNO waypoint)

- when entering STAR (during preflight) the entire route - except first LEGSPAGE was gone.

At the other hand, this isn't the case for shorter routes as, EBOS to EGLL or EGKK. (Maybe these longterm problems has somethign to to with the length or complixity of the route?)

The same situation (lost of route points except 1st page) with the return legg. GMMN/EBOS. For test reasons I entered the EBOS STAR (FERD2A) only during the descend briefing. The result was the same. The aircraft even returned again to the beginning, as long I didn't correct the route.

Routing : GMMN/EBOS AGDAL G5 TOLSI UG5 KORIS UL27 VJF UN10 HIJ UW130TLD UN858 VADOM UN874 VEKIN UN873 FERDI

SID GMMN AGL1D - STAR EBOS FERD2A

What certainly seems to be fixed is inserting waypoints or go dct to a certain waypoint during flight. This item is now working ok.

I also informed PM -support again, about my latest test flights with the hope this longterm item will be fixed onces.

B. Rgds
Michel

[michelmvd]

Just received message from PM-support that a new CDU build is in progress and most of the know issues should be fixed with it.
We looking forwards to its release
Many greetings
Michel

[marco]

Hello Michel,

Great news indeed. And many thanks for your precisions concerning the using of the CDU.

En een goede dag komende van the streek van Marche-en-Famenne.

Marc

[Jan Pemöller]

Thanks Michel,

I allready sended an email to enrico but get no reply since 2 days ;-(
Nice to hear that there is something in progress.

Best regards
Jan

[AchillesP]

Hi here,

My problem with airac 0710 and 0711 is that i fill the flight plan and when i execute i get extra waypoints at the legs page. A normal plan of 300nm goes to 4000 or 5000nm. I have to delete all the extra wrong legs in order to get a normal flight. This is happening in most of the cases.

[JonathanRichardson]

Hi

Some have expressed concern about the length of time it is taking to get the updates promissed on the news pages.

Whilst I'm here in the forum, I will try and outline what is happening.

The B-CDU has been actively worked on for the past few weeks. It is still being worked on and has taken longer than expected. The main issues we think are fixed, but one issue which came up as a side effect has proved a little more difficult to resolve.

When it is released we hope it will fix:

SID / STAR - causing route lines to disappear after changes or planning routes
LNAV tracking when entering a new waypoint in flight
Improved (hopefully resolved) any strange line drawing due to errors of altitudes and PERF settings and closing of continuties etc

So far, the tests of the new build appear to be good, but it can't be released until the final issue is resolved.

Regards
Jonathan Richardson

[David Rogers]

Thanks for the update - really looking forward to the release.

Regards,

[michelmvd]

Hi Jonathan,
Thanks for bringing us up to date. It is indeed a very long time we have seen updates, but when this major issues will be solved, it will be worth it.
See you
Michel

[Norbert-EDDV]

Thanks for information Jonathan.
Continuous informations have comforting effects
Greetings
Norbert