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    Interface board

    Hi Guys.

    Can someone tell me what this means?


    {You will also get 32 Digital Switches using an X/Y matrix
    arrangement.}


    It's from this board http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/index.html
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    Radar,

    Matrix type connections allow a circuit to get away with fewer components. Any specific location on the matrix is a combination of X and Y coordinates on a grid.

    Q R
    A-------|--------|---------------------
    | |
    B-------|--------|--------------------
    | |
    C-------|--------|---------------------
    | |
    D-------|--------|---------------------

    (Sorry I can't get the lines to line up correctly... but the font is not allowing it. Think of the Q and R as being located OVER the lines running vertically.)

    Now, I can connect one leg wiring of a key to the location BR, and have that location when connected to Ground send the keypress "1". I can then connect a wire to location BQ and have it send the keypress "2".

    You'll notice that the circuit for the B line already has TWO possible keys that it can send. These kinds of circuits are prone to what is called ""ghosting"....sending keypresses that aren't intended.

    A better approach is to have discrete inputs for such work.... but it is more expensive because of the added complexity of doing so.

    best,

    ....................john

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    This device has 6 X inputs and 6 Y inputs. That means you can connect 36 switches to it..... on the web page you provided take a look at the diagram on the right which shows the switch matrix and how the switches are connected together. Because 4 of the switches are reserve for the Hat switch, that leaves you a possible 32 switches.

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    Stay away from matrix boards - old technology, as John says - ghosting issues etc.

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    Matrix boards are not that bad.. Just have to use a diode to keep from getting the ghosting....
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    By the time you bother with all the time to solder in all the diodes plus the cost of solder and diodes...... why not just spend a couple of bucks more for discrete inputs? My $0.02.

    best,

    ..................john

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBaymore View Post
    By the time you bother with all the time to solder in all the diodes plus the cost of solder and diodes...... why not just spend a couple of bucks more for discrete inputs? My $0.02.

    best,

    ..................john

    Discrete inputs? What are they, and can I still use this board with discrete inputs?

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    What board do you have?
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    http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/index.html
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    Descreet inputs on a board are also called direct inputs. A matrix is not used.

    The inputs on a matrix board can in most cases also be used in a direct mode, but will cut down on your inputs dramatically.

    If you have 36 imputs for use in matrix mode, I think the inputs get cut down to 12, but my math may be faulty.

    I will no longer use a matrixed input board as I don't like dealing with the diodes.
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