Sound Issue

[michael1508]

Hi Experts,

I copied the recommended sounds from the Jehell page to the sound directory of the A320 (just as described on the jehell page).
But I have the feeling, the sounds are not played properly, if they are played at all.

When I start the external power, I hear the air conditioning - very loud.
When I start the engines, I must really concentrate to hear them spooling up. And even at take off, the sound of the air condition is dominating.
I already changed the FSX sound options: Cockpit: 0% and Engines: 100%, but that doesn't seem to have an effect at all. Air Condition still loud and engines hardly heard.

Anyone that can give me a hint?

Thanks,
Michael

[OmniAtlas]

With the latest FMGS the aircraft should only exist in the A320FMGS directory and not in P3D/FSX -- e.g.

D:\A320FMGS\Aircraft\a320 FMGS JH Project Airbus A320-214\Sound

Make sure your sound files are in this directory.

[michael1508]

thanks for the hint. I copied the files from the FSX directory to my Jeehell directory, but no change. I hear the engine, but at very low volume.

In my directory there is a SOUND folder and another Sound subfolder:
F:\A320FMGS\Aircraft\a320 FMGS JH Project Airbus A320-214\SOUND\Sounds\

I copied the sound files in the "Sounds" subfolder, is this correct?

Thanks,
Michael

[OmniAtlas]

As mentioned your *.wav files need to go in D:\A320FMGS\Aircraft\a320 FMGS JH Project Airbus A320-214\Sound

not a \Sounds subdirectory.

[michael1508]

ok, I do have all .wav files in that directory.
And I can hear them, when I am carefully listening. I hear the sounds, when the APU is ready. I hear the starting up of the engines. But it's still the problem, that they are so low in volume! Or, to put it the other way -the air condition sound is relatively loud. When I take off, the engines should be heard significantly louder, than the air condition. But that's not the case.

What can it be?

thanks again!

Michael

[OmniAtlas]

Why don't you go to the Option dialogue box in the JL sound module and adjust the airconditioning sound?

[michael1508]

ok, I now adjusted the sound options. I found out, it is the avionics sound, that I wanted to reduce in order to better hear the engine. But still couldn't hear them. But after closing the whole Jeehell sound module I then heard the engine thrust going up and down on moving my throttle.

I guess, these sounds are coming from FSX and Jeehell still doesn't recognice the additional .wav files in the sound directory. I only copied them there. Was I supposed to run some kind of installation routine for the sound files?

I am probably pretty annoying to you - sorry! Hope you are still willing to help!!

Thanks,
Michael

[OmniAtlas]

I don't understand why you are copying additional .wav files in the sound directory. The sound directory are only the aircraft sounds (e.g. engine sounds, FSX/P3D environmental sounds, etc).

The Jeehell FMGS program only runs the *.wav files it installs with the FMGS package. Don't try and mix them up together.

Your best bet is to run the FMGS sounds on one sound card, and the FSX/P3D sounds on another sound card/output.

[michael1508]

Sorry, I am even more confused now...

To be sure, we are talking about the same thing:

I understand, that the JL installer only provides the basic aviation sounds, but no engine sounds.

For the engine sounds, I nee to install the additional CFM56 sound package, as recommended on the JL web page.

These sound files should be in D:/A320FMGS/Aircraft/A320 FMGS JH.../sound/

That's where I copied them from the old installation folder (former JL version under fsx/simobjects/aircrafts/...)

If I open the JL sound options window, I only see the JL particular sounds, like the call outs and the avionics, but not the different engine sounds. I assume, this is the correct behaviour? Or am I supposed to see all sounds, including the sounds from the sound package?

Now, assuming I have the CFM56 sound pack files in the right folder, how can I allocate them to the FSX sound card? (as I said, they are not listed in the sound options window)

Thanks again!

[OmniAtlas]

Michael -- don't get confused. Its not that difficult.

FSX/P3D controls the CFM56 sound package (the sounds you copied into the A320 FMGS sound directory). If you want to change the volume, or redirect this to a different speaker, you can do so inside the FSX/P3D application (go to options -> sound settings *WITHIN* FSX/P3D).

When you install JL FMGS you have an option to install the sound module -- when you install the sound module it will install a set of sounds SPECIFIC to FMGS -- aural alerts, air conditioning sounds, ground proximity warnings etc. These can be volume adjusted/disabled in the FMGS Sound program (go to OPTIONS).

So think about it this way -> FSX/P3D controls engine, flaps, gear sounds.
JL FMGS controls sounds related to the INTERNAL cockpit (avionics sounds, aural alerts).

Does that make sense?

[bindook]

Don't forget FSX has a bug in it. There is a avionics sound that cannot be turned off (still trying to work out how to silence it), even when the a/c is in cold & dark

Michael

[michael1508]

thanks for your additional advise. Now I believe, I am getting closer to the root of the problem!

I played around with the aircraft.cfg and changed the title in order to find out, which aircraft FSX is loading. In indeed, FSX is not loading the new version from F:/A320FMGS/... , but still loading the former version from FSX/simobjects/aircrafts/A320FMGS...

Within the FSX aircrafts selection window I couldn't find the option to add a new plane. How can I tell FSX to load the Airbus from the new installation folder? I hope, I do not have to delete and reinstall everything!

Thanks so much for your patience!!

[OmniAtlas]

With FSX aircraft must reside in the FSX\simobjects\aircraft directory.

Only with P3D can aircraft files reside in a different folder.

Make sure your sound files are in your FSX\Simobject\aircraft\A320FMGS aircraft folder.

[michael1508]

I GOT IT!!!

Don't ask me how. Didn't change anything on the sounds, really. Just tried the whole start up procedure once more. And suddenly I heard the engine sound as it should be. Even after some additional runs.

Now, what is still unclear to me is, why I have two installation folders
- F:/Fsx/simobjects...
- F:/A320fmgs/...
Do I need both?

Thanks for your support!

[EdwardInBeijing]

Hi Ben, Michael,

Just want to let you know I have the same problem (again). I had it on P3D v2 but finally fixed it. Now I'm on P3Dv3.1 and the CFM pack (downloaded from your site Ben) is in the /A320FGMS/Aircraft/A320...../sounds folder (as I beleive it should be). But no sounds.

Michael, thanks for the tip about the avionics sound that's been bugging the **** out of me, now I can turn it off I can clearly hear there are no engine sounds.

So if you have any idea what you did to make it work, I'd love to know

Cheers
Edward

[michael1508]

Hi Ben,

for engines, I use the standard sounds of FSX. So within FSX/Options/Sound I turned it up to 100%. Don't forget to have the "Active" box checked! Together with the reduced avionics sound and turning up the loud speaker (hardware) a bit, this now gives me a good sound mix.

Dont' know, if this applies to P3D as well?!

cheers,
Michael

[EdwardInBeijing]

Hi well I sorted my sound problem in the same way you fixed yours. It just started working for no apparent reason....

What I did do was reinstall JH with the sound files in place and upgraded P3D to latest version but I did the latter first and still had no engines, so I'm leaning towards putting the sound files in place and installing JH as the fix

[digidax]

Have the same problem. All Sounds are in P3D disabled and the Air Condition sound in FMGS is lowered. Changeing the value the AC sound is being also changed. But after powering on the aircraft provied by external power, a noising sound is played. No APU is running and so no air is bleeding. When I close FMGS's "Sound.exe" the sound is quiete. Starting "Sound.exe" the sound comes up. In the options there is no slider for this sound or a item for identificate it.

What can I do?

best regards Frank

[michael1508]

did you check the electricity slider?

[digidax]

Not yet, will do this. Thanks for the hint.

[Barrykensett]

Just a little more support - I like you was deafened by the systems noise when I first loaded up Jeehell. If you go into the JH sound module you can turn it down togther with the other pre-loaded sounds, calls etc. You can adjust the engine level by going into FSX/P3D sound configuration page, I then still found the engines too quiet because I had turned down the total volume at the sound mixer to avoid being deafened by the systems! So you have three places to adjust sound levels and you need to balance them all; I would suggest you set your mixer at about 90% to start with and then balance the sounds in JH and FSX/P3D to your taste. Finanlly you can take total level up or down a bit. You have rightly loaded a sound package into the aircraft sound folder, you don't need to change the JL sounds until you get into advanced expert tweaking.
I also have sounds coming from Flight Keeper and SIOC and this leads to some duplication in calls but it is easy to take out the redundant ones.
When you get it right the engine sounds it will shake the floor!
Barry
www.a320sim.com

[Barrykensett]

Further to above I have not tried using dual graphics cards, not sure how you direct sounds to one or the other.
Sometimes in FSX/P3D you get an annoying noise which sounds like aircraft systems but is actually coming from a nearby aircraft or servicing rigs. If that is the cause it goes away when you taxi.
Barry

[digidax]

My problem is fixed: It was the volume of the avionic which was producing that noise. Now everything is adjusted and sounds nice.
In which directory I have to place the sound of "Turbine Sound"? This sound is played an controlled by P3D, there I can adjust it as "engine sound". So it have to place in the Aircraft folder (Sim ObjectI in P3D?

best regards Frank

[Barrykensett]

You cannot just put the sound in the P3D directory without editing or replacing the sound.cfg file.
Barry