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derpilot
02-15-2014, 09:34 AM
Hello,

I really like JeeHell as a free software which is so complex that it is the best solution available for A320 cockpits. At the moment I do not know which computers to use for all the displays and IOs. I really like to use JeeHell but the problem is that I really like those Raspberry Pi computers as huge PCs would be a complete overkill. I find it interesting to have more small Pis than having to big towers.
As JeeHell is only available for Windows I cannot use it on the ARM based Pi. What would be about compiling JeeHell for an ARM Linux? I think there would be lots of builders who really would like to use the Pi and JeeHell because it would be a really powerful and attractive combination.

Regards
derpilot

fsx-cockpit
02-15-2014, 10:42 AM
Hello,

I really like JeeHell as a free software which is so complex that it is the best solution available for A320 cockpits. At the moment I do not know which computers to use for all the displays and IOs. I really like to use JeeHell but the problem is that I really like those Raspberry Pi computers as huge PCs would be a complete overkill. I find it interesting to have more small Pis than having to big towers.
As JeeHell is only available for Windows I cannot use it on the ARM based Pi. What would be about compiling JeeHell for an ARM Linux? I think there would be lots of builders who really would like to use the Pi and JeeHell because it would be a really powerful and attractive combination.

Regards
derpilot



We have yesterday the same discution...jeehell on linux. This time only for win os. We7they try on linux with wine but not probably working.

Uuups I see, you new here, WELCOME :p
Cheers Chris

derpilot
02-15-2014, 11:47 AM
I saw the discussion but the difference is that even with Wine you would not get it working on a Raspberry Pi since it is based on an ARM processor. JeeHell on a Linux PC would not better the situation where we are in that we need overpowered PCs for the display and IO system. For this reason it would be helpful if the code would be accessible for those who want to use a Pi. Surely there is no support for that but when you tinker a self programmed solution comparable with JeeHell (which is nearly impossible to do) then you would nat have support either.
For those who just do not like Linux or cannot afford Windows, Wine might be a solution as long as it is working but for those who want to use the great benefits of a small and cheap computer this is not interesting since the Pi cannot execute x86 code.

The homecockpit community is based on different people tinkering here and there and trying new things. So I really would appreciate it if one had the possibility of build an own version of JeeHell for the own needs. There is no ultimative solution for everyone as every homecockpit project is different and everybody demands different standards from his system.

PS: Actually I made my account just for the reason of JeeHell but I noticed there are lots of interesting groups in this forum :)

Regards
derpilot

OmniAtlas
02-16-2014, 09:52 PM
So I guess the question remains -- what is the most afordable x86 Windows platform which can run Jeehell FMGS and has a small form factor?

Stephan Schwarz
02-17-2014, 05:21 AM
Ever thought about using a thin client like this? http://www.ebay.de/itm/THINCLIENT-MINI-PC-COMPUTER-HP-TC5720-AMD-1500-MIT-WINDOWS-XP-EMB-RS232-RS-232-/271403015253?pt=DE_Computing_Thin_Clients&hash=item3f30e15c55

English description below :-)

Regards,
Stephan

OmniAtlas
02-17-2014, 06:33 AM
Ever thought about using a thin client like this? http://www.ebay.de/itm/THINCLIENT-MINI-PC-COMPUTER-HP-TC5720-AMD-1500-MIT-WINDOWS-XP-EMB-RS232-RS-232-/271403015253?pt=DE_Computing_Thin_Clients&hash=item3f30e15c55

English description below :-)


Regards,
Stephan

Yes, we used these in the hospital I use to work in --- static images, great...not too sure how it would go with opengl.

And don't you need Windows NT or some sort of server to load the program from?

Stephan Schwarz
02-17-2014, 06:56 AM
Well, this one has an embedded WindowsXPe .. so you should be able to run the software directly, but I dont know how it performs with openGL applications

OmniAtlas
02-17-2014, 07:51 AM
Well, this one has an embedded WindowsXPe .. so you should be able to run the software directly, but I dont know how it performs with openGL applications

It has the following graphics card -- SiS741GX Integrated/UMA graphics with 16 MB shared graphics memory...not too sure about the performance.

derpilot
02-17-2014, 10:31 AM
It could be that it wont work on the Pi or these mini PCs either due to performance issues, but if we had the source we could find out. It is a free sodtware so why not? I know it means more work to publish the code but eventually this could lead in manifold possibilities.

fsx-cockpit
02-17-2014, 10:48 AM
Hey,
Thinclients are very fast with removed XPembedet and installed 2,5" HDD.
I use one with 2GB Ram and 40GB HDD. You can remove the flashdrive without damage. Drivers no problem.
Either you can use a CF Card. ( faster as a HDD )

And the best is power consum and no noise :)
With Desktop-remote you can place your instruments from a other PC.
If you donīt want a cable for lan, use a Wlan-Stick, no problem.

Tipp: First think about what Software should run on ThinClient.
If you donīt need Internet, you donīt need the updates, firewall and anti-virus. So, Thinclient work much faster...

Greetings,
Chris

OmniAtlas
02-18-2014, 03:31 AM
It could be that it wont work on the Pi or these mini PCs either due to performance issues, but if we had the source we could find out. It is a free sodtware so why not? I know it means more work to publish the code but eventually this could lead in manifold possibilities.

I don't think Jeehell will release his source code after all his hard work; it is after all his effort and he should take full credit for it.

OmniAtlas
02-18-2014, 03:34 AM
Hey,
Thinclients are very fast with removed XPembedet and installed 2,5" HDD.
I use one with 2GB Ram and 40GB HDD. You can remove the flashdrive without damage. Drivers no problem.
Either you can use a CF Card. ( faster as a HDD )

Greetings,
Chris

Hi Chris -- the problem I see with these older clients is that you can't run multiple screens?

It seems with the newer released HP clients this is not a problem -- http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/thin-client-solutions/t620.html#tab-features

I would need to run at least 4 outputs (including the mcdu).

OmniAtlas
02-18-2014, 03:36 AM
Found this -- raspberry pi running windows -- http://www.zdnet.com/news/raspberry-pi-delivers-cheap-windows-for-smbs/6364035

derpilot
02-18-2014, 10:11 AM
I don't think Jeehell will release his source code after all his hard work; it is after all his effort and he should take full credit for it.

Maybe it could be on a donation basis. Would be fair.

fsx-cockpit
02-18-2014, 11:21 AM
Hi,

I find page with listing much boards:

http://www.exp-tech.de/Mainboards/RPi/Embedded-Pi.html

Hope somebody help this side for build electronic....

OmniAtlas
02-18-2014, 06:52 PM
Maybe it could be on a donation basis. Would be fair.

once you sell your source code you pretty much lose control of your software. I very much doubt Jeehell would want to do that.

jeehell
02-19-2014, 03:46 PM
Hi,

I'm obviously not that much after money, but neither am I into letting other people make big money with my code...

Right now you need one big computer for visuals, and a smaller one. With multiple video outs, you can drive the complete suite with all necessary screens. I've seen that kind of setup working.
I'm not sure the Pi can run the ND, which demands heavy calculations.

JL

ToTom
02-20-2014, 01:20 AM
I confirm. I have one computer for visualization (Matrox and 3 projectors). And one computer for the cockpit. This computer has three graphics cards. Old GF9500/GF8300. The processor is also an old C2D Q6600. It's not expensive solution ...
Everything runs very smoothly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=109RGcjiAgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAziGeyz7Ts

GodAtum
02-24-2014, 09:56 AM
I confirm. I have one computer for visualization (Matrox and 3 projectors). And one computer for the cockpit.

You still ahve to buy Windows liceses though? I dont see why i should have to pay for Windows licenses to run this free software. hopefully it will be converted to run on Linux in the future.

ToTom
02-24-2014, 10:19 AM
Oh, come on. Do you know what is the costs of the cockpit? One license Windows is little thing...
By the way. I buy in Poland cheap computers with Windows in refurbished version.
Linux is free. But you still have to buy FSX/P3D... and many, many other things...

GodAtum
02-24-2014, 10:22 AM
Oh, come on. Do you know what is the costs of the cockpit? One license Windows is little thing...
By the way. I buy in Poland cheap computers with Windows in refurbished version.
Linux is free. But you still have to buy FSX/P3D... and many, many other things...

I know its a small amount of money but Id rather not support Microsoft.

OmniAtlas
02-24-2014, 03:51 PM
Then I'm afraid you are out of luck because jeehell only supports windows. I'm not even aware of any other payware cockpit suites runningin other OS.

If you don't want to give ms money then buy windows from another person.