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Spatate
02-16-2009, 01:52 PM
Since i am waiting to move before starting my cockpit...(july) ... that forces me to plan... and re-plan...

So i am asking myself this...

for frontal view...

is a layout like my sketch possible or should i start thinking about another one...

http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/data/631/th2g_layout.png


PS: i plan to build a CRJ-700

Geremy Britton
02-16-2009, 02:38 PM
That's certainly do-able :)

Spatate
02-16-2009, 02:56 PM
Ok... great...

How? LOL!!!

I mean, can i set i wide angle to monitor 2 and narrower to 1 and 3?

ivar hestnes
02-16-2009, 03:23 PM
I think you might get some trouble with that setup.

If the resolution on projector is tha same as on the LCD screen thats not the problem. Problem is the zoom on the projector vs lcd.

The projector will in this example make a big picture but the lcd will make a small picture. So you probably have to zoom the projector to a different setting (within FS), than the lcd screens. Then you have to undock the views and get the well known frame rate hit. But if you have a high end computer, it might also work out.

The ideal would of course be three identic projectors, but sure you know that:)

Spatate
02-16-2009, 03:49 PM
@ivar

Yea you are right... that would be best...

what i am trying to do is lower the cost as much as possible and at the same time lower the width needed for the cockpit...

My last plan would be to use only LCDs but i beleive i would need 4 and i am stuck with the centered line for side by side... monitors...

Spatate
02-16-2009, 03:50 PM
Additionnal question:

Is that setup possible also with X-Plane?

ivar hestnes
02-16-2009, 04:37 PM
Not sure about x-plane setup. Someone else jump in;).

Have you already bought the projector?

If not, there are ways to get projection for cheap money. Build them yourself. Sure it is a challenge, but people have done that before. The absolute cheapest way would be to use three lcd screens and three "overhead`s" from a school or similar. Check the video below. Probably some more work than the 3,5 minutes on the video, lol.
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Spatate
02-16-2009, 04:57 PM
Not not purchased it yet!!

i'll be sure to check this video... thanks

ivar hestnes
02-16-2009, 05:01 PM
It is probably not what you want, cause I guess it can be difficult to get the distance from lcd to overhead-glass correct. And it is important to have cooling in between there. Or the lcd will fry;).

But I just like the idea because it is so simple and you get high resolution projector for small pennys:)

PDT 200
02-16-2009, 09:38 PM
From what I've read on the X-Plane forum is it takes multiple computers for multiple views. I have not read where the various screens are undockable and can be moved around. I'm running 3 projectors and 3 monitors on 2 video cards with 4 outputs. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe X-Plane supports that on a single computer without massive frame rate loss.
Regards
Brian

Spatate
02-17-2009, 10:19 AM
Actually i will not mind having 2 PC

keeping main pc for outside viz and inputs

having slave pc for instruments.... is not a no go for me!

PDT 200
02-17-2009, 02:50 PM
My understanding is that for each view you need a separate computer along with a copy of XPlane running on each one. For me that would be 4 more computers and 4 more copies of XPlane just to do what I'm doing already with FS9 and 1 computer. Also the other 4 need to be very near the same spec as the main computer. Can't use the old clunkers from past years. Could do that prior to version 9 but with the increased complexity of the scenery need better faster machines to keep up. I'm getting all this from reading the X-Plane.org forums and searching on multiple monitors there.
Regards,
Brian

Goldmember
02-18-2009, 08:38 AM
The side view of your drawing suggests a curved screen. If so, beware of the distortion you'll get. It's almost rocket science if you study dome projection but all I know is that you need special software for it to post process your image in order to suit it for dome projection.

Spatate
02-18-2009, 10:28 AM
@Goldmember:

Actually my plan is to have slighty curved for front...to cover a panoramic view as muhc as possible

and flat LCD for sides...


also...anyone know a lens that could project wider than a regular one?

A projector generally project to... 1 foot to wall = 1 foot diagonal... i would like to increase that to 1.5 diagonal or even 2 if possible...

orwell84
02-18-2009, 11:15 AM
I think Ian has a setup something like this. Chime in if I am wrong.

Goldmember
02-19-2009, 05:39 AM
I'm experimenting with a curved screen and actually consider producing them in small qty's for flight simmers. But the screen is quite simple, it's the projector part that is complicated and maybe expensive. You would need either an expensive short throw projector, an expensive fish eye lens (wich is not standard for projectors) or expensive post processing soft/hardware.