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tasmanet
01-17-2009, 12:00 PM
from the never ending Sol7

So we build a cylindrical screen 180 degree we use the TH2G and send the fs view to the projectors and finally run the sol7 to give us the perfect warp around 180 screen.

But the question is How the fs9 or the fsx can give us FOV of 180 degree?

As far as i know the smallest zoom factor in the fs9 and the fsx is 0,30 and this i think is give us FOV of the 107 degrees.

The best to project 180 degrees FOV from Fs to 180 screen.
And not 107 degrees FOV from Fs to 180 screen.

Exist any way ? (without re-create 3 separate views or use wideview)
Can someone have solution to this?
Lambis

How are you guys getting 180 deg FOV

Just did some tests on the fs9 lear and this supports Lamis claim on FS9 FOV

Steve

tasmanet
01-19-2009, 06:34 AM
Nic in Tasmania gets over this by using multiple contiguous window views. -- Bryn


So how do we achieve this Nick

Is it as simple as changing the [VIEWS] in the Panel.cfg ???

Regards
Steve

tasmanet
01-19-2009, 09:22 AM
. FS9

Had a bit of a go at this and managed 180 deg FOV

Set both of my screens in >Options>Settings>Display>Hardware to 960x600

Opened another Cockpit Veiw (1) and moved and resized to Monitor 2 to aprox HD ratio

changed [VIEWS] in panel.cfg
to
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_WINDOWS=36
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_DIR=0.000, 0.000, 45.000

VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_WINDOWS=30
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_DIR=0.000, 0.000, -45.000

45 gave an overlap

changed the eyepoint=60.0, 0.00, 0.00 in Aircraft.cfg


Set Cockpit Veiw 00 to
Look Forward/Left
Zoom 000.40

Set Cockpit Veiw 01 to
Look Forward/Right
Zoom 000.35

Turn >Veiws>Instrument Panel>Global On Off

The result was O.K

Sol7 would solve the problem in the middle of a 180 FOV screen

The perspective appears to be out about 10 deg at the ends

Maybe ACES will give us 180 FOV for 2 HD monitors in FSY (11) :-)

Regards
Tas

tasmanet
01-19-2009, 11:48 PM
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo307/tasmanet/180FOV.jpg

brynjames
01-20-2009, 03:07 PM
Here is Nic's page on the visual system:

www.insitesolutions.com.au/737project/design_visuals_develop_v2.htm

Makes good reading.

--
Bryn

Melnato
01-20-2009, 07:58 PM
I tried opening up windows last night to get the elusive 180 FOV...
but the frames rates fell through the roof.

NicD...How do you over come this???????????????????????????

What frame rates do you average mate?

Nat

NicD
01-20-2009, 09:56 PM
Hey guys.. we're actually getting 270 degrees field of view with the system now. When you turn your head to look out the rear window you can't see the end of the screen... so the immersion level has gone up a notch (so have costs mind you!). 3 ultra shrot throw projectors - Optoma EX525ST.

FPS... well I've done just about every tweak in the book, abandoned some, kept others. Koorby's guide over at the vista australis forum is one of the best around. Dual core PC with 4gb ram (dell 6300 - 2 yrs old), and Nvidia 9600GT card with 528MB ram. We have done so much tuning and tweaking that its hard to remember it all now (sorry!).. but at least if you're system is similar or better than ours then it offers hope o keep trying.

I have my FPS target set to 23 and it hovers around 20 most of the time, the odd stutter on big scenery loads, but its quite smooth generally.

Window positions are best edited using values in the ini file. Play with the values and they will start to make sense.

To test zooms, get the aircraft flying over the sea, put it into a 30 degree bank and pause. Play with zoom settings - all windows should be set to the same zoom%. When all the horizons line up you have the right soom set (and this will vary for each sim).

mpl330
01-21-2009, 04:37 AM
Hi Nic,

Sorry to crash this thread but Santa was kind to me this year and delivered the same projector (EX525ST) but so far my visuals have looked rubbish -very 'blocky' and not too impressed with it so far in FS. I have tried it with a DVD and it's great, sharp image etc. but in FS it sucks. What settings have you got your desktops and FS set to?

Thanks
Mike

Melnato
01-21-2009, 07:35 AM
Yep Mike,

You have to get used to a projector...you cant compare the image to a 19" LCD for example.

How big is your projected image? Just think about how big your new image is...

OHHHH...Set the full screen resolution of FS9/X to the "native" resolution of your project exactly...
your are just fooling yourself if you try and set it any higher...in fact the image will get worse.

BTW FSX has higher rez. textures than FS9...

Nat

NicD
01-22-2009, 05:50 AM
Hi Mike - ours went blocky first time as well, but it was the NVIDIA card losing its antialiasing settings. For some reason the FS9 profile in Nhancer or Nvidia settings just wouldn't work anymore, so I ditched Nhancer and just changed the base settings in nvidia settings (i.e. not using a profile). Works nicely now with clear sharp images.

Double check that the correct resolution is still selected in FS9 display settinbs. Changing output displays can knock that back to 800x600 without you knowing. And as Nat says - use the native resolution of your projector for best results.

mpl330
01-22-2009, 02:48 PM
Hi,

Thanks for the tips - have also found a post on Avsim about getting best results using nhancer and the latest drivers so between your recommendations and the avsim post hopefully I will get some better results...

Out of curiosity Nic - what have you got your res set as (I have the same projector)...?

Cheers
Mike

Melnato
01-22-2009, 07:27 PM
I dont want to put words in Nic's mouth...but Im sure it is:

Native XGA (1024 x 768 ), so 3072 X 768 in FS.

Nat

GDR
01-26-2009, 07:48 AM
Hi,

NicD's reference towards "Koorby's guide" is very good if you have FS9. Never the less, I'm using the FSX version and some tweaks work fine. But, I've found, from my point of view, a good tweak on the net based on FSX.

Here's the link: http://members.cox.net/spambait/FSXTweakGuide.pdf :)

Hope it helps someone as it did to me.

NicD
01-27-2009, 05:22 AM
Yep - that's correct.


I dont want to put words in Nic's mouth...but Im sure it is:

Native XGA (1024 x 768 ), so 3072 X 768 in FS.

Nat

jnr641802
02-04-2009, 08:03 AM
Hi I am new to cockpit building, having previously used a mitsubishi ex 1100 projector for the entire fs9 cockpit /view.Now building a cockpit and with very very limited space I need a short throw projector such as the ex525st.Did you manage to get better results in the end from this projector or do you recommend I give this one a miss??.It certainly is very reasonably priced here in the UK.


regards Jim