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ak49er
01-04-2009, 07:56 PM
.....Lead to this. After accepting CAD drawings from a fellow simmer to make 737 parts, I won a bid to make a scaleable CPT. (will be made to be upgradeable to a FFS) I was busy trying to train myself on CAM software (Feature CAM) and also translate files from AUTOCAD to AUTODESK Inventor. Being busy with the free project, I tried to outsource all the panels from the paying job to free up time and deliver a more profesional product. I contacted all the usual suspects (manufacturers)with some shoddy information and after a few were graciouus ebough to talk to me via email and phone I soon learned that I needed to begin with the hardware (buttons, knobs) before just asking for panels to be built. Some weren't intersted in building for me but offered great advice, which was fine. Another already makes the panels but does not want to sell me the individual panels I need,l instead inssiting on selling the whole package, which is fine too. But I still needed to get these done. So thank you too those who could not help, I guess I will be doing all the panels myself......and....will be making individual panels available to fellow simmers as they are refined. Off to the CNC Mill to see how this thing looks. (not 100% realistic but darn close)

Michael Carter
01-04-2009, 08:46 PM
It looks good and I wish you luck with your projects.

I might have to have you make a Performance Management System head for me down the road. That would eliminate my keyboard from the cockpit for good.

ak49er
01-04-2009, 08:57 PM
I'd be glad to Michael, the panels will of course be PVC if backlit, but I could do aluminum if it just needs to engraved or embossed. Send me some drawings or just a sketch and ideas and I can draft it out.

Michael Carter
01-04-2009, 09:52 PM
It would have to backlit including the keys. It's not as complicated as an FMC used in a Boeing. This is a very rudementary engine management system used in the '70's and probably up through retirement of the 727.

The screen need not work or even light up. I just need the keys to work with a Hagstrom keyboard emulator to eliminate my co-pilot seat keyboard.

Standard Boeing rack width, a little shorter than it is wide. Close is good enough as I don't have dimensions or an example.

No hurry. I have a few irons in the fire right now with a working weather radar from another member here.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/boeing722/PMSdiagram.jpg

ak49er
01-04-2009, 10:06 PM
Looks good Michael, I would need to know what hardware (buttons, switches) you are going to use, with dimensions to plot out the rest, especially to utilize those large buttons.

Michael Carter
01-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Might be awhile, but the keyboard is nearly a standard size 10-key touchpad with a couple missing.

I won't forget, but it might be late spring before I get around to gathering the hardware and sending dimensions of that.

Thanks for the offer. Much appreciated and easier than reverse engineering a real PSM unit.

ak49er
01-04-2009, 11:17 PM
Any idea of the main dims, LxWxH? I need at least one set to scale the rest......will draw soon if I have that....

Michael Carter
01-04-2009, 11:30 PM
Yep, standard Boeing rack width 5.75" for the backplate. About a 1/32" smaller for the lightplate. 5.325" center-to-center on the hole spacing across the unit.

Don't know about the height, but looks to be about 5.5" +/-. Maybe 5-3/8"

ak49er
01-05-2009, 02:39 PM
This is the display bezel modeled 99% after a Honeywell Display Bezel, once I figure out how to fixture it, I'll make a run of these, available soon, should this part be aluminum or plastic, I worry that plastic will warp with that big of an opening, but aluminum is so costly..... Revision, v2 will have a backcut to allow a piece of smoked arcrylic to be recessed in the rear for a simulated anti-glare screen. This fun and easy, why didn't I do this instead of calling all those uninterested manufacturers, three cheers for DIY!!!

Michael Carter
01-05-2009, 02:45 PM
Looks great. You saved a lot of money by DIY'ing.

Deesystems
01-05-2009, 03:13 PM
Looks great. You saved a lot of money by DIY'ing.


;)And mycockpit'ing ;)

Trevor Hale
01-05-2009, 03:19 PM
LOL Dee,

Ak... Engravity builds theirs from Aluminum and I can tell you that they are so worth the money. The first set I built I made out of 1/4" Plexi, and they were strong enough, however there is nothing like the feel of the cold Aluminum. It feels so real, that would be my suggestion.

Trev

ak49er
01-05-2009, 09:49 PM
Here is this afternoons draft, the L and R buttons have been cut by the last fillet around the outer edge, but a little refinement should clear that up.