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DENNIS ORSAG
03-07-2008, 04:40 PM
Hello,

I Am Looking For Someone Who Does In Home Cockpit Set Up Installation / Tweeking. I Currently Have A System That I Have Set Up With The Following.
< 6 ' Screen With Dlp Proj. For Exterior View's.
< 3- 20" Lcd Screen's Mounted In The Cockpit For Instrument View's.
< 6 Goflight Modules For Control's Mounted In Cockpit.
< Trip. Head To Go Box.
< Thrustmaster Hotas
< Saitek Pedal's
< Natural Point Vector Motion Camera For Exterior View's
< Buttkicker 1000 Watt Amp. To Drive L.f.e ( Low Freq. Emitter's) For Force Feed Back In The Pit.
< High End Pc From Alienware With Sli Tech. Dual Proc. 2 Gig Extra Low Latency Mem. Etc.
< 5.1 Logitec Surrond Sound System.
< Vox-atc Interactive Air Traffic Control

This Is Not A Small Project, Many Hour's , $$$$$$, Invested.

I Have An Entire Room In My Home Deicated To My Sim Project, I Wish To Use The Sim To Help Me Stay Current On "private Pilot" Aviation Procedure's - Instrument Flow Pattern's Etc.

What's My Point?

I Know Enough About The Equipment Listed Above To Set It Up And Make It Work. However I Cannot Seem To Get All The Component's Dialed In Properly.:( Ie: Problem's With Sli Tech. And Setting's, Getting Fsx And Fs9 Screen's Set The Way I Want , Ie: Instr. View's Saved On The 3 Lcd Screen's When Closing A Flight. Basically, I Know Enough To Frustrate My Self Trying To Dial This In.
Soooo, Does Anyone Know Of Someone (company) That Will Go To Someone's Home To Do This Type Of Set Up Work?
They Must Be Very Adept In Fsx , Fs9 Tweeking, Multi Monitor Config, Etc. My Main Issue Is View's And Cockpit Instr. How To Config. Custom Panel's To Save And Load Up Properly On The 3 20" Lcd Screen's In The Cockpit.

I Live In Northern Ca. Approx. 2 Hour's South Of San Francisco.

I Was Very Pleased To Find Your Site!!!!!

Kind Regards

Dennis Orsag

magicaldr
03-07-2008, 04:51 PM
While I don't know of anyone who can do this for you (being in the UK) I am sure some of the regulars will be able to offer you advice. Just thought I would pop up and welcome you to the site, nice to have another GA pilot. (Although sounds like your setup leaves mine standing.) :)

Trevor Hale
03-07-2008, 04:55 PM
Hey,

It sounds to me that you just have taken on way to much at one time.

The best thing for you to do is concentrate on one "Problem" at a time. this will eliminate the needless Heart attacks that occur when to many things go wrong at one time.

Maybe if you start with one issue, describe it to us, we can help you step by step.

Unless someone live in Northern California, I don't think your going to find any companies that will do this for you for anything less then an arm and a leg.

Give us a try, and let us know how we can help one little issue at a time.

Best regards,

Trev

spitfire9
03-07-2008, 05:00 PM
I'm too far from you to be of much help,, but I do know something about frustration.

:D Since I've started this insane hobby,, I've been constantly frustrated ! That's why it feels so good when something goes right !

DENNIS ORSAG
03-07-2008, 05:59 PM
I'm too far from you to be of much help,, but I do know something about frustration.

:D Since I've started this insane hobby,, I've been constantly frustrated ! That's why it feels so good when something goes right !

HELLO,
NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU , AND TO KNOW IAM NOT ALONE!!!!!!:p

Matt Olieman
03-07-2008, 06:16 PM
I agree with the guys above, we'll gladly help. Give it to us one step at a time.... We've all gone through this, and you're right, "You're not alone" :)

DENNIS ORSAG
03-07-2008, 06:41 PM
I agree with the guys above, we'll gladly help. Give it to us one step at a time.... We've all gone through this, and you're right, "You're not alone" :)

HELLO MATT,

THANK'S FOR THE OFFER OF HELP! THIS SITE IS GREAT!!!! I THINK I WILL FINALLY BE ABLE TO SOLVE SOME OF MY SIM PIT WOE'S.

KIND REGARDS

DENNIS ORSAG
03-07-2008, 07:24 PM
I agree with the guys above, we'll gladly help. Give it to us one step at a time.... We've all gone through this, and you're right, "You're not alone" :)

HELLO MATT,

MY CPU HAS SLI TECH. (DUAL GPU'S NVIDEA 7800GTX KO) I CURRENTLY CANNOT USE THIS SETTING AS IT WILL CAUSE THE 3 20" LCD MONITOR'S I USE FOR INSTRUMENT DISPLAY TO GO BLANK. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TO USE SLI SETTING'S WITH MULTIPLE MONITOR'S?
I DO HAVE A MATROX TRIPLE HEAD TO GO BOX , HOWEVER IM NOT SURE I HAVE IT CONFIGURED PROPERLY? :roll:
I WOULD LIKE TO LOAD HIGH QUALITY GRAPIC PANEL'S FOR VARIOUS AIRCRAFT ON THE 3 20" LCD'S , WHILE VIEWING THE EXTERIOR VIEW'S ON MY 6X6' SCREEN VIA THE DLP PROJECTOR.
WHERE CAN I PURCHASE HIGH QUALITY CONFIGURABLE PANEL'S THAT WILL WORK WITH FS9 OR FSX. I HAVE TRIED PROGRAM'S LIKE PANEL BUILDER FOR FS9 , HOWEVER IT IS VERY COMPLICATED AND DIFFICULT TO PROGRAM.

KIND REGARDS

Matt Olieman
03-07-2008, 07:38 PM
Hi Dennis, I know you directed this question to me, but when it comes to this subject, there are many others with much more expertise then me. So I'll ask them to respond please :) :)

Rodney
03-07-2008, 09:01 PM
Dennis,
Please don't use caps lock exclusively.


MY CPU HAS SLI TECH. (DUAL GPU'S NVIDEA 7800GTX KO) I CURRENTLY CANNOT USE THIS SETTING AS IT WILL CAUSE THE 3 20" LCD MONITOR'S I USE FOR INSTRUMENT DISPLAY TO GO BLANK. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TO USE SLI SETTING'S WITH MULTIPLE MONITOR'S?
FS9 & FSX are not SLI capable programs. Given that, you will not be able to use the combined SLI capability. Perhaps you could try removing the SLI connector and use them both independently. 1 For projector & 1 for TH2Go and instruments. You will have to experiment, as I do not have this capabilty to test. There are other builders that use a multiple of video cards in one machine and have done this, so its do-able.



WHERE CAN I PURCHASE HIGH QUALITY CONFIGURABLE PANEL'S THAT WILL WORK WITH FS9 OR FSX. I HAVE TRIED PROGRAM'S LIKE PANEL BUILDER FOR FS9 , HOWEVER IT IS VERY COMPLICATED AND DIFFICULT TO PROGRAM.
Some builders use a program from Project Magenta & there are others. You may just try using your native panel instruments.

Bob Reed
03-07-2008, 09:34 PM
Hi Dennis. First of.. As stated above FS does not support SLI so there is no gain in trying to use it. The reason only one screen works when SLI is turned on is because you only get one video output in that mode. The computer sees the 2 cards as one. I would use the TH2GO on one output on one of the cards and use one output on the second card for the projector. Once you get things set how you want them. Save the flight as the default.

Trevor Hale
03-08-2008, 10:18 AM
Hi Denis,

As you can see from the responses in the Thread, your well on your way to getting the help you need.

As Bob had mentioned, The SLI Feature takes the two cards with duel outputs and changes them into one card with a single output.

But that one output shares the processors and memory from both cards.

So Because you will not gain anything by using the SLI Feature.

I would suggest the following.

#1. Place your Tripple Head to go on output #1 Video Card #1. and pick up on ebay or at a computer store a VGA "Y" Cable. Attach Monitors #1 and #3 to the Y cable on your Output #1 on your Video Card #2. (These will function as your pilot and copilot displays.) "By using the "Y" Cable you don't use unneeded computer resources to display the same information on two monitors" Place your last Monitor on Output #2 of your 2nd Video Card.

Basically the outside flightsimulator visuals will only be on (Output #1) Video card #1. (displayed on the tripple head to go)

#2. Buy a program called FS PANEL SUTDIO. it is only 50 bucks, and will allow you to create 2 New (Instrument windows) so you can drag the instruments you want for your 3 monitors onto each of those windows with Black Backgrounds.

If your fly the PAIII You will probably want your Primary (Copilot and Pilot) 6 packs "VSI,ALT,AS,ADI, HORIZON,HSI) on the first one, and your Radio stacks, engine instruments on the Monitor #2 (Center)

FS Panel studio is very user friendly and it is just a matter of drag and drop from existing panels to new locations.

Once you load your new panel in the plane and load flightsim, you can #1. Close the Panel on the plane your flying so that your flightsim view is clear.
#2. Opene the 2 new panel windows you created in FSPS by using the Shift + 6 or Shift +7 whatever window id you gave it, and right click one them. When you right click you have the option to undock the window.

Drag them and size them on the instrument monitor. Save the flight in flightsim, and they will always remember where they were.

I hope this gives you some idea how to succeed. We are all here for comments and questions.

Failing everything, if you want, I will give you my Telephone number and would be more then happy to work with you over the telephone.

This is a fun hobby, but even I know how frustrating it can be.

Best regards,

Trevor Hale

DENNIS ORSAG
03-08-2008, 01:23 PM
Hi Denis,

As you can see from the responses in the Thread, your well on your way to getting the help you need.

As Bob had mentioned, The SLI Feature takes the two cards with duel outputs and changes them into one card with a single output.

But that one output shares the processors and memory from both cards.

So Because you will not gain anything by using the SLI Feature.

I would suggest the following.

#1. Place your Tripple Head to go on output #1 Video Card #1. and pick up on ebay or at a computer store a VGA "Y" Cable. Attach Monitors #1 and #3 to the Y cable on your Output #1 on your Video Card #2. (These will function as your pilot and copilot displays.) "By using the "Y" Cable you don't use unneeded computer resources to display the same information on two monitors" Place your last Monitor on Output #2 of your 2nd Video Card.

Basically the outside flightsimulator visuals will only be on (Output #1) Video card #1. (displayed on the tripple head to go)

#2. Buy a program called FS PANEL SUTDIO. it is only 50 bucks, and will allow you to create 2 New (Instrument windows) so you can drag the instruments you want for your 3 monitors onto each of those windows with Black Backgrounds.

If your fly the PAIII You will probably want your Primary (Copilot and Pilot) 6 packs "VSI,ALT,AS,ADI, HORIZON,HSI) on the first one, and your Radio stacks, engine instruments on the Monitor #2 (Center)

FS Panel studio is very user friendly and it is just a matter of drag and drop from existing panels to new locations.

Once you load your new panel in the plane and load flightsim, you can #1. Close the Panel on the plane your flying so that your flightsim view is clear.
#2. Opene the 2 new panel windows you created in FSPS by using the Shift + 6 or Shift +7 whatever window id you gave it, and right click one them. When you right click you have the option to undock the window.

Drag them and size them on the instrument monitor. Save the flight in flightsim, and they will always remember where they were.

I hope this gives you some idea how to succeed. We are all here for comments and questions.

Failing everything, if you want, I will give you my Telephone number and would be more then happy to work with you over the telephone.

This is a fun hobby, but even I know how frustrating it can be.

Best regards,

Trevor Hale

TREVOR,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I WILL TRY THIS ON MY OWN AT FIRST, IF I MESS IT UP I WILL TAKE YOU UP ON THE TELEPHONIC COMMUNICATION, AS I TYPE VERY SLOWLY:(

KIND REGARDS

DENNIS ORSAG

DENNIS ORSAG
03-09-2008, 02:45 PM
Hi Denis,

As you can see from the responses in the Thread, your well on your way to getting the help you need.

As Bob had mentioned, The SLI Feature takes the two cards with duel outputs and changes them into one card with a single output.

But that one output shares the processors and memory from both cards.

So Because you will not gain anything by using the SLI Feature.

I would suggest the following.

#1. Place your Tripple Head to go on output #1 Video Card #1. and pick up on ebay or at a computer store a VGA "Y" Cable. Attach Monitors #1 and #3 to the Y cable on your Output #1 on your Video Card #2. (These will function as your pilot and copilot displays.) "By using the "Y" Cable you don't use unneeded computer resources to display the same information on two monitors" Place your last Monitor on Output #2 of your 2nd Video Card.

Basically the outside flightsimulator visuals will only be on (Output #1) Video card #1. (displayed on the tripple head to go)

#2. Buy a program called FS PANEL SUTDIO. it is only 50 bucks, and will allow you to create 2 New (Instrument windows) so you can drag the instruments you want for your 3 monitors onto each of those windows with Black Backgrounds.

If your fly the PAIII You will probably want your Primary (Copilot and Pilot) 6 packs "VSI,ALT,AS,ADI, HORIZON,HSI) on the first one, and your Radio stacks, engine instruments on the Monitor #2 (Center)

FS Panel studio is very user friendly and it is just a matter of drag and drop from existing panels to new locations.

Once you load your new panel in the plane and load flightsim, you can #1. Close the Panel on the plane your flying so that your flightsim view is clear.
#2. Opene the 2 new panel windows you created in FSPS by using the Shift + 6 or Shift +7 whatever window id you gave it, and right click one them. When you right click you have the option to undock the window.

Drag them and size them on the instrument monitor. Save the flight in flightsim, and they will always remember where they were.

I hope this gives you some idea how to succeed. We are all here for comments and questions.

Failing everything, if you want, I will give you my Telephone number and would be more then happy to work with you over the telephone.

This is a fun hobby, but even I know how frustrating it can be.

Best regards,

Trevor Hale

TREVOR, I PURCHASED FS PANEL STUDIO ON 3/08/08, I AM WORKING MY WAY THROUGH THE TUTORIALS. I AM CURRENTLY ATTEMPTING TO "ADD A NEW PANEL TO AN EXISTING AIRCRAFT" I AM STUCK ON HOW TO "SELECT A BACKGROUND BITMAP" I HAVE TRIED SEVERAL THING'S WITHOUT SUCCESS. ALSO UNLESS I SPACED IT:? , I DID NOT SEE AN "EXPLANATION" ON HOW TO MAP THE BITMAP FILE?

THANK'S AGAIN FOR ALL THE ADVICE

KIND REGARDS

DENNIS ORSAG

DENNIS ORSAG
03-09-2008, 03:22 PM
Hello, All V.a.e.'s ( Virtual Areonautical Engineer's):p

I Am Hoping To Get An Answer To A Question Regarding A Program Called "fs Panel Studio"

I Purchased Fs Panel Studio On 3/08/08, I Am Working My Way Through The Tutorials. I Am Currently Attempting To "add A New Panel To An Existing Aircraft" I Am Stuck On How To "select A Background Bitmap" I Have Tried Several Thing's Without Success. Also Unless I Spaced It , I Did Not See An "explanation" On How To Map The Bitmap File?

Thank's Again For All The Advice

Kind Regards

Dennis Orsag

spitfire9
03-09-2008, 03:22 PM
You just have to make your own first. The program doesn't come with pre loaded background images.

I just used ms paint to make a 1024x768 black bmp image . Then when prompted ,, find where you stored it and load it into Fs Panel .

DENNIS ORSAG
03-09-2008, 03:31 PM
You just have to make your own first. The program doesn't come with pre loaded background images.

I just used ms paint to make a 1024x768 black bmp image . Then when prompted ,, find where you stored it and load it into Fs Panel .

HI,
THANK'S FOR THE ADVICE, I KNOW THIS SOUND'S "LAME", BUT WHAT IS MS PAINT? HOW DO I USE IT , WHERE CAN I FIND IT? THAT IS' IF I CURRENTLY HAVE IT AND DON'T KNOW IT.

SORRY ABOUT MY WEAK SOFTWARE SKILL'S:oops::oops:

KIND REGARDS

DENNIS

AndyT
03-09-2008, 04:39 PM
Click START in the lower left corner of your screen.
Put your mouse on ALL PROGRAMS and when the list opens,
put your mouse on ACCESSORIES. A new list will open.
Click on PAINT.

DENNIS ORSAG
03-09-2008, 05:23 PM
Click START in the lower left corner of your screen.
Put your mouse on ALL PROGRAMS and when the list opens,
put your mouse on ACCESSORIES. A new list will open.
Click on PAINT.

ANDY,

THANK'S FOR THE TIP, I FOUND IT ! :D


BEST REGARDS

DENNIS